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Of all the Weatherby cartridges, the .257 Weatherby Magnum was Roy Weatherby's favorite. It was the best round he ever devised for deer sized game at very long range. It also produced acceptable recoil for the results. It is one of the flattest shooting rounds you can buy and is a favorite out west. Antelope hunters often say it's the best round to use for them. It certainly has all of the disadvantages already listed in this thread, but for the specific task it was created to do, it had no equal in it's day and few equals exist to this day.

Taco Tuesday on Friday. ( venison ).

Remy. ADL action , Shilen bbl. ( not as thick as it looks in the pic. ) 1 in 12 twist . Remmy. Varm. stock ( pillow and glass bedded ) 3x9 bushnell scope I had sitting on the shelf. Waiting for a nice calm day to sight it in.

Caught these yesterday Sorry that they're sideways but I don't know how to rotate them

In fact the vertical bow will out distance a crossbow. It's how crossbow army's were held out of england.. it's a matter of kenitic encergy, longer stroke heavier arrow more distance over shorter stroke and lighter bolt.. remember a 200 lb pull crossbow is only equal to a 65 lb pull compound.. so e archers pull over 100lbs, English longbows are 150lbs pull

Save yourself some money and just get a 25-06. I have a friend that hunts with one and has killed every deer he has shot with it. You will save on ammo the ammo cost ½ as much and is easier to reload you don’t have to worry about the double radius shoulder or the belt.

You can make slaw in your smoker? lol

Thanks guys. I have the "I wanna buy a gun just because" itch and was looking at calibers I don't have. Saw the Weatherby accuguard and got curious but it sounds like way more distance than I'll need in NY. Hell I still think my 270 is more distance than I'll need in NY. Geechee born and Geechee bred

Dude, they're every where. They're an invasive species. Fire away.

People have reasons why they portray themselves as douche bags online but are really nice guys in real life. On the other hand, there are only two reasons why someone is a douche bag in real life but portray themselves as nice guys online. They're either a rapist or a pedophile. Or both. Fortunately for me, I'm ugly and old.

Nothing like an old timey bar even WITHOUT a jar of pickled eggs.

I don't know. The half dozen guys we hunt with every one of them very proficient with a bow and half of them retired and have time to hunt every day didn't even go out the first two weeks of bow. We practice qdm to a very minimum of 8pnts or more and most of us are hunting specific deer ~ most not filling doe tags to gun season. That gave us less time to bag a buck of our standards. Your not blowing your stands up killing a doe while your hunting big deer. So the reality is the doe only season had the opposite effect that DEC wanted to achieve. Now this is on private land and a specific group of hunters so yes the variables very. But I bet a bunch of you did the same thing. Will full inclusion of crossbow bring down the heard numbers? Absolutely ~ but to DEC standards ~ I don't know. It's not just going to bring out a few more hunters, everytime I walked into a big box store there was a non bow hunter buying a crossbow. Your going to have I'm guessing 50% more people in the woods for a whole month and a half on public lands within a few years of full inclusion with a much easier weapon and guys who Are not hunting big bucks as much as just hunting anything. Full inclusion is going to happen sooner or later but it's going to happen. I'm for it but I hunt private land ~ on public I wouldn't want it.. They sat threw a gun course eventually they will sit threw a bow. Stoneiam2006 ~ my Mission 400 I shot a 6 inch group with three arrows exactly at 100yrds the first day I had it just for giggles. That's with the 4 wheeler as a rest. Missed the target entirely on the 4th shot and lost the bolt, you set the scope for 20yrds and each line is another ten. Pretty darn easy. Im sure I posted pictures in the crossbow section last year of this. Very top of the line set up but out of the box it sure can be done ~ just sayin.

I've never seen the long or short, just long rifle. I'm bored so I thought I'd snap a pic for you..........

Anything is possible, but it really seems this administration is doing everything it can to make this happen. I know if I wanted to destroy America, I'd have done everything Obama has done up to this point too.

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke) The federal government is spending billions of dollars every year pursuing internal threats, while allowing external threats to freely cross our borders completely unchecked. This is a serious problem and should be considered unacceptable. Regarding the internal threats: "Because [federal] agents create crime, rather than merely detect it, they hold the power to create the appearance of guilt... Many of the values reflected in our Constitution are directly threatened by these operations." -1984 report, US House Subcommittee on Civil & Constitutional Rights ETA: Changed my mind, I'm not going further.

Sanctification is the act or process of acquiring sanctity, of being made or becoming holy. "Sanctity" is an ancient concept widespread among religions. I am now a Saint. This is beyond excellent if you enjoy sours. Blond, beautiful and perfect.

I don't doubt that, after just so long you can tell who the good eggs are on a forum. Sometimes I'm talking with my wife and I'll be telling her about some folks on the web. I'll say "oh, so and so is a good guy" and she'll say "how in the hell do YOU know they're a good guy?" Just a gut feeling but so far it's been spot on................ On the OTHER hand, I'm sure some of the guys I think are douche nozzles are probably good guys when they get out from behind the keyboard. I could be wrong on that one though..........

Pan fried steak with butter, side of steamed baby taters and veggies from a bag. Yes' it's bloody, the g/f will have to cut a hunk off and cook to her taste. LOL

I let my beer decide what it's in the mood for and try not to get too pushy. Now if you guys really wanna fight. I usually fall asleep or start crying before I get a chance to get too angry,lol

And on a brighter note, this picture (a 35mm that I snapped a picture of with my cell phone for here) is from one of our 2nd or 3rd dove hunts in PA. I know it wasn't the first trip because dad didn't go then. It was a spectacular September day and the shooting was fine! A memory that all of us cherish. This hunt was in the "mountainous" northern tier of Pennsylvania, just south of the New York border. Even where there don't appear to be many dove, there's plenty. It's not like they "stand out" like a deer, turkey, bear etc. These little burners blend in with their environment so well that it takes a little time to really recognize their silhouette on the wing, on a wire or in a tree. And then when they are on the ground, heck they are almost impossible to spot. Good times............

Finally finished my first euro mount, of my 2015 rifle buck. I'm very happy with the results. The board used, came from the old homestead on the farm property. Where he was shot. It was built in 1814. The dried grass was given to me from my friends wife, who lives on the farm and cut it from the property. And the two 7mm-08 casings came from my gun. The one on the deers right is the one that fired the bullet that killed him. I wanted to use things for the mount, that connected to where the buck lived and died. I think I've done that. And showed him the respect he deserves.

I remember, not all that long ago talking to an old guy who hunted Montana Mule deer for years and years. He sang the praises of the 257 Weatherby Mag. and went on and on about how there was nothing better for long range deer hunting. He said he still had the rifle (I assume a Weatherby) and although he was too old to hunt, he would still never sell the rifle. My guess is that the round is an a$$ kicker.

Those little guys are for driving nails, Rob...No projectiles.. The .22 LR shot shells that you are thinking of look very similar, but they are longer.. The length of a standard .22 LR cartridge .

I heartily agree, AL....However, the "baddest" rifle/cartridge combo is often not the "goodest" choice for Joe Average Hunter.

Let all the other threads, to each their own. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I forget which hunting app I use but I love it ! After my stands are marked I take a screen shot and send it to my wife's and the land owners phones. Then each hunt they get a text which stand I'm using , shouldn't be an issue locating me . Great for taking new people so they who's where and how to get to those stands if need be. Like the feature where I can figure acreage as well.

In my smoker right now is venison jerky. The venison was placed in a brine solution to soak overnight and this morning was placed in my smoker. Smoking the jerky using mosquite chips for approx.18hrs at 130F . Cant wait, yummy!!!

Always wanted one, but just can't justify buying one. I have 7MM weatherby mag that I use out west. My dad has the 270wby mag. If I lived in rifle country I'd probably get one for NY. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

For western open country it may be the best Deer-Antelope caliber there is, if I lived and hunted out west I would definitely have a rifle chambered for it. Al

hardshell is so underrated, far superior to soft shell

Getting back to the bird here for a moment..... From my summer observation stand last year I watched a flock of these things WAY off in the distance around an old farm house on the horizon. The aerial display was really something to see. The flock moved in "waves" and spun like a tornado. Birds at the top disappeared and magically re-appeared some distance from where I'd last seen them. It was like watching a cloud of smoke floating along the way they all just seemed to flow as one big unit! I honestly had to look twice, and three times thinking it was some kind of funnel cloud about to touch down. Of course I snapped a pic, but it was one I never thought I'd use since I've seen this before so I dumped it hoping to capture it again. I'd imagine those iredecent feathers must play a role in helping parts of the flock appear to "vanish" in thin air during these maneuvers while other parts of the flock appear. Just my last thought for the night. Back to the bullet talk.....

I have three favorites, BOTTLES, CANS, AND DRAFT. Never had a beer I didn't drink, especially if it was a BUD.

In real life I go from douche nozzle to douche bag.

An inherently accurate cartridge, an inherently accurate action and an inherently accurate barrel, and sounds like a pretty good stock. If I were a betting man I would say you probably have a real tack driver there. Al

Nice gun Al. I have lots of love for the Leupold 2-7 scope also although it is an old love........for years it was all I used on my rifles and deer shotgun, the Ithaca Model 87 DSII. In recent years the 2.5-8 Leupold is my usual glass of choice. You can't go wrong with either one............. As far as the .280 goes, had a couple of those too. Actually both .280's were the same gun, just different serial numbers, Remington 700 KS lefty's. The first one I bought new in 1993 IIRC. Dick's Sporting Goods had just come to Buffalo and the gun dept was eager to please. They ordered one in for me at a decent price, $829 I used that gun for about 10 years before sending it down the road to help fund a NULA. Then, after second guessing THAT decision, a friend (and enabler) sold me another KS, exactly the same! Great price but after getting it in hand and shooting it a bit that one also got the boot. Between the 7mm-08 and 300WSM the .280 wasn't needed. (since when does NEED have anything to do with it?) Sometimes I have this little brain cramp and consider selling both the above mentioned guns (both NULA's) and getting either a .280 or (yikes) a 30-06 NULA. I like the two eighty...........too.

Back in the late seventies a good friend of mine ran a sporting goods store that I helped out in part time. We took in a really nice Husqvarna 30-06 sporter on trade from a fellow I knew well. That particular Husqvarna has a commercial 98 mauser action. I had a bad habit of falling in love with the merchandise and paying for it with my paycheck and the Husqvarna ended up coming home with me. My Dad was still alive back then and we were going on hunting trips pretty much every year to Canada mostly. After using a Sako Finnbear 338 Winchester mag for a couple of hunts I decided I was going to try a 280 Remington in a light weight sporter and my plan was to re-barrel this rifle with a 22 inch sporter barrel. I sent the barreled action off to Douglas and had them put on their best barrel and had the everything reblued. I then glass bedded the barreled action into the stock. After that I took off the old varnish finish and did an oil finish. I topped things off with my favorite big game scope the Leupold 2X7 that kept the whole package fast handling and light weight. A good friend of mine who actually turned me on to the 280 had extensively worked up different handloads and felt that the Norma MRP was the best powder for this case. I went with his advice and worked up more of a power load than a fine accuracy load. I ended up going with 60.5 grs of the Norma MRP and it was chronographed at just over 3000 fps. I was getting one and a quarter to one in a half inch groups with the 150 grain Nosler Partition bullets and although I got better accuracy with some other bullets I stuck with the Partitions for a couple of reasons. I was going to be using this rifle on Moose hunts where varmint accuracy was not needed and for the unfailing reliability of the Noslers holding together. To sum things up the 280 Husqvarna has been a winner for me, after several moose and a bunch of deer it has performed 100% and I would not hesitate to use it on any game in the US. Al

Glad to help.

I sent a few letters to my area for dove hunting, I admired Mike for being so passionate about it, even posted a few times for the deer hunters complaining about the new regs to take a page from Mike's book and get petitions going. I was never against it. Never even came close to saying I was. I stated more then once, I wasn't for it or against it, but had no issue helping out with the letters or petitions. Where my issue came in was making a thread about doves concealed as an ammo debate. There were more then 3 of us that called him on that. Good luck with getting the season in. I am sure the three separate posts he has about the same thing will help a lot.

There are many places in NY where you don't see them much. They are an unprotected species in NY with no closed season and no bag limit. Anyone with a NY hunting license can shoot them all the time.

This is where all the happy drunks hang out! The mean ones are roaming around the rest of the site!

Had this while prepping dinner last night. Avery Uncle Jacobs stout. 17.1% abv. Sipper for sure.

I'll tell you one thing we never did, "hydrate". You drank water maybe once a day and it was out of a hose. And don't get me started on sunscreen

You must rattle like a bag of drum sticks walking in the wood with all those strikers!! lol JK real nice work man. I have one pot call and one striker, am a terrible turkey hunter and some day may be lucky enough to kill one while truly hunting turkey!! I have taken a couple but as opportunity arose while not specifically turkey hunting. My 1,2 or 3 trips out a season is more hope on luck than anything else!!

I think this point is lost and can't be emphasized enough. the "modern" approach to hunting is much different than it used to be. There is a focus on hunting alone (or with one buddy) and taking a low pressure approach to get that wall mounter giant. Our hunting has gotten just like the kids sports. it is an all year event. trail cams, shed hunting. scent control, food plots, tree stand setting and on and on. Years ago it was more of a social event. As a very young kid I spent many a freezing day tagging along with Dad. I didn't look forward to sitting for hours on a hot seat in inadequate clothing, clinching a lighter fluid filled hand warmer for dear life becasue it was fun. The few minutes surrounding getting a deer every couple years was fun but it was the social aspect that was the draw for me. The stories, the ribbing each other, the tailgate lunches on state land parking areas, the early morning breakfasts and hearing the game plan for the day laid out like some Super Bowl chalk board talk. playing cards at night at a ratty old camp and having a dinner that would about harden your arteries from the first bite. Today it seems for many like more of an individual sport. it's a shame, I miss those days.

My favorite is Bud.........I catch lots of flack from friends but I have always liked the king of beers since I was teenager........

got your back Larry

Homemade pierogi and venison pepper jack hotdogs from Costanzas . Forgot to take a picture so I had to draw from memory .....

I'm always late for the party, but here you go.. I'm the young guy 3rd from right , 2nd row.

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