Merlot Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 I recently moved my parents into nursing care and started cleaning out the house. I re-discovered a mounted Great Horned owl in his basement. upon seeing the owl, I recall seeing it around the house when I was little...we're going back 50-55 years. I couldn't see just throwing it out because the owl is in great shape. I took it home and planned on donating the owl to a local DEC office. I double checked the DEC site and protected bird site and find that possession is a very serious state and federal offence. To protect myself, I am considering taking it to camp and disposing of the owl....hate to do it, but I do not need a police record, like the fellow caught with protected birds while reading the New York Outdoor news. I know my father and his uncle hunted crows after WW II and maybe back then, having a stuffed Owl was no big deal...sure is now. The lighter fluid, wood and owl are ready for ignition...Wondered what the group thinks I should do. I vote burn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Burn baby , burn ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmkay Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 I believe you can legally donate it to a museum or school. But you would have to admit having it first. this said, I think it would be your father that is on the hook. you would just have to say, you cleaned out their home and found it. But I doubt anyone would put their eldery father in jeopardy, so as fasteddie said, burn it or get rid of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ants Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Hide the bird, just off a remote road somewhere, easy to find. Then call the DEC tip line and report it anonymously. Seems a shame to burn it and being honest, in this case, could bite you in the ars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First-light Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Keep it don't burn it. It been down there so many years, let your kids worry about it when you………..well I won't go there. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Get rid of it . You might pizz someone off and they might turn you in out of spite . Uhhhhhhh , drop it off at someone's home that you don't like . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Im sure if you call DEC and explain the situation to them, youll be fine. They will most likely confiscate it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wooly Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 If you go the burning route, I'd at least sink a few arrows in it before sending it up in smoke. Make it exciting....., dowse that sucker in gasoline, and light it up with a flaming arrow "Duke Boys" style,lol 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlot Posted April 30, 2014 Author Share Posted April 30, 2014 Maybe I'll strip the feathers for fly tying....wait a minute...I have an idea. Perhaps the Hitler rant clip can be adapted to my owl dilemma. I can see it now, Hitler in his bunker, going over the map on where to hunt crows, then being told by his aides that possessing an protected species is against the law. Then Hitler asks those in the bunker to leave if they do not want responsibility for the owl....at least I came up with some added material for a rant. The deer permit one was brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 If you go the burning route, I'd at least sink a few arrows in it before sending it up in smoke. Make it exciting....., dowse that sucker in gasoline, and light it up with a flaming arrow "Duke Boys" style,lol But you have to do it while hanging out the passenger side window of an orange 69 Charger.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deerthug Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 But you have to do it while hanging out the passenger side window of an orange 69 Charger.... Don't forget the hot brunette in the back seat wearing short shorts! Lol! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncountry Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 I would do a little more research . A quick look shows that it may be ok to keep, at least within the family .Grandfathered in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncountry Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Amerika - Where folk are now scared of their own shadows. Hey something I can agree with ..I would have set it on a branch next to my deer..lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATbuckhunter Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 I wouldn't do a thing to be honest. Dec doesn't know you have it and you can always explain the situation if they should some how see it. I would keep it if I were you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr VJP Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Make a call to the DEC guy in your area from a pay phone and refuse to give your name. Ask what the law says. If the guy says it's illegal to have it, in any way shape or form, anywhere in the country, tell the guy, "Thanks, but the law is crazy". Then put it in a black plastic garbage bag, take it to a remote area and drop it off, then call them back from a pay phone to tell them they can be stupid and destroy it if they want to. I'm pretty sure I've seen mounted owls before, so I don't know why your's would be a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApexerER Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Im sure if you call DEC and explain the situation to them, youll be fine. They will most likely confiscate it though. I agree with this..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phade Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 I would probably just keep it under wraps. I can't see a big deal made out of it given the scenario. If there's no place for it (say at a family camp or something), get rid of it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Just call them tell them what happen and that the bird is 50 years or older and you don’t know what to do with it. Tell them you don’t know where it came from. You can get a permit to keep it. The worst thing that will happen is you may have to turn it over to them and you were going to do that anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlot Posted April 30, 2014 Author Share Posted April 30, 2014 With my luck en route to camp, a state trooper will pull me over and ask to look for contraband. Discovering the owl, he would confiscate the owl, my vehicle, notify the DEC, question me, obtain a warrant for a search of my home, confiscate my guns, my merlot, and my first born, then fine me. I'll just stick it in my bunker and fugettaboudit....I do bring it out occasionally to scare the cats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zem18 Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 If you got pulled over on your way and he asked for contraband, the trooper would need a search warrant to look for contraband unless he thought you had committed a crime recently in the area or you gave him consent to search. Pop it in the trunk, they can't go in there without your permission so do not give them permission. All is good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncountry Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 With my luck en route to camp, a state trooper will pull me over and ask to look for contraband. Discovering the owl, he would confiscate the owl, my vehicle, notify the DEC, question me, obtain a warrant for a search of my home, confiscate my guns, my merlot, and my first born, then fine me. I'll just stick it in my bunker and fugettaboudit....I do bring it out occasionally to scare the cats. Hey , put it in a box without a return address, drop it off at the post office and send it to me. lol . Last year while hunting, the squirrels were driving me nuts. A hawk flew in to my area of the woods and sat in a tree not far from me, and it became quite peaceful. Maybe a stuffed owl would be just the ticket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HectorBuckBuster Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 You might want to check this out. Owls and hawks mounted prior to the revision of the Migratory Bird Treaty Act in 1972 (Title 16 USC, section 703) may be possessed with the burden of proof on the holder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 You can keep it. Its an antique mount..like antique ivory. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philoshop Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Keep it if you really want it. I guess it depends on who might see it. If you don't want it, please don't destroy it. Lots of places would like to have it for educational use if it's in nice shape. I'm as suspicious as they come with regard to the government, but I don't see this being an issue with your explaination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyantler Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Protected nongame birds such as songbirds, hawks, and owls can be legally brought to a taxidermist by game wardens, Federal agents, or holders of appropriate State and Federal permits. Once mounted, these birds can be legally possessed only by public scientific and educational institutions or individuals or facilities that have a valid Special Purpose Possession Dead permit. Personal possession of nongame birds is prohibited. English sparrows, common starlings, and feral pigeons (rock doves) are not native to the United States and are not protected by Federal law. (See 50 CFR 21.11) 4. Doesn't say anything about a grandfather clause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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