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6 hours ago, nybuckboy said:

The cop knew exactly what he was doing and deserves big time jail time and how bout the other 2 who did nothing to prevent this death.  They are accomplices. They deserve some time as well.  Not all cops are bad in fact most aren't but a lot of police are pricks with a badge. 

 

12 hours ago, Buckmaster7600 said:


And then they were contradicted by the departments instructor that said it is taught and authorized.

I have been through two different law enforcement academy’s and both taught it, As an instructor in the marine corps we taught it as well as a restraint technique. One of the academy’s I went through used the FBI’s training curriculum, most academy’s do.

I looked for the information for Minneapolis Pd on what curriculum their academy uses but was unable to find it. Individual departments protocols are a very grey area because transfers from other departments almost never require another academy that is why most use the fbi’s curriculum.


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If you could not find it, my guess is what he did was what they trained  him to do and now they want to cover it up maybe . I mean the guy new he was being filmed so why would he do that unless it was part of his training.  who knows for sure media and these  democrat run city are so  political its hard to know the truth .   

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Lol, billy you crack me up. From someone who has a bit of martial arts experience and whose spent my adult life trained in body holds the cop used a method trained throughout thousands of academies

No matter what the verdict may be........it won't end well........

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The amount of ignorance and racism in this thread is really sad .

That’s all. Weather the Verdict is guilty me innocent doesn’t really matter that cop killed that man and it’s a source of pain for many people in this country.


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12 minutes ago, Chef said:

The amount of ignorance and racism in this thread is really sad .

That’s all. Weather the Verdict is guilty me innocent doesn’t really matter that cop killed that man and it’s a source of pain for many people in this country.


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How do you know he killed him  ? or wanted to kill him ? could have been bad training  just because CNN told you like they told you biden was good and trump was bad ?how that one go for you ? Admittedly have not followed all of this case  but know enough to tell you you cant trust what they say about it .  So you think he  killed on purpose , a guy while knowing he was being filmed in this  day and  age ? not likely . 

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30 minutes ago, Chef said:

The amount of ignorance and racism in this thread is really sad .

That’s all. Weather the Verdict is guilty me innocent doesn’t really matter that cop killed that man and it’s a source of pain for many people in this country.


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Racism?

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26 minutes ago, phantom said:

How do you know he killed him  ? or wanted to kill him ? could have been bad training  just because CNN told you like they told you biden was good and trump was bad ?how that one go for you ? Admittedly have not followed all of this case  but know enough to tell you you cant trust what they say about it .  So you think he  killed on purpose , a guy while knowing he was being filmed in this  day and  age ? not likely . 

Kinda like all these shootings going on across the country 3 months into this useless ones role. How many shootings during Trumps 4?  Hmmm!

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20 hours ago, grampy said:

No matter what the verdict may be........it won't end well........

A whole lot of "peaceful" protests around the country. Crazy Maxine will lead the way.

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4 hours ago, phantom said:

 

If you could not find it, my guess is what he did was what they trained  him to do and now they want to cover it up maybe . I mean the guy new he was being filmed so why would he do that unless it was part of his training.  who knows for sure media and these  democrat run city are so  political its hard to know the truth .   

Because he’s a punk egomaniac 

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I think he'll be found guilty of murder- only verdict they can render in order to prevent the utter destruction of Minneapolis afterward.

Having said that however, personally,  I dont think hes guilty of murder.  It wasnt intentional in my view but was clearly reckless and demonstrated depraved indifference for Floyds life and safety. Something more like 1st degree manslaughter probably would be appropriate, I think. 

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4 hours ago, Chef said:

The amount of ignorance and racism in this thread is really sad .

That’s all. Weather the Verdict is guilty me innocent doesn’t really matter that cop killed that man and it’s a source of pain for many people in this country.


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You gotta be a fool to believe someone would blatantly murder someone while being filmed while people yell and  threaten him .Liberals really are a special breed 

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47 minutes ago, WNYTRPR said:

You gotta be a fool to believe someone would blatantly murder someone while being filmed while people yell and  threaten him .Liberals really are a special breed 

Well I’m the furthest thing from a liberal there is.

But I know an egomaniac when I see one .

And to continue his stupidity when he had no pulse just shows his arrogance.

The cop is an idiot ! And his career is over ...

You said he is a fool , I say he is a moron who just ruined his life , right on camera for all to see... 

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Yes he should loose his job but should not be in jail for life if Floyd didn’t resist it would have been a problem so I feel he is just as much at fault if you resist and fight with the cops you get what you get I have no sympathy for you no matter what race you are have a friend that had to fight with the cops he got his pounded and then arrested got exactly what he deserved  

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8 minutes ago, Stein13 said:

Yes he should loose his job but should not be in jail for life if Floyd didn’t resist it would have been a problem so I feel he is just as much at fault if you resist and fight with the cops you get what you get I have no sympathy for you no matter what race you are have a friend that had to fight with the cops he got his pounded and then arrested got exactly what he deserved  

It’s a tough job but it certainly doesn’t entail “pounding” a suspect. The training is precisely aimed at teaching officers to subdue their ego and humanely restraint the subject with minimal harm. Police are not authorized to hit or kill those who disagree with them. It is not their job to dole out justice. Chauvin should rot in prison. The more interesting question is how do you remove future Chauvins before they unjustly kill again. 

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21 hours ago, Buckmaster7600 said:


And then they were contradicted by the departments instructor that said it is taught and authorized.

I have been through two different law enforcement academy’s and both taught it, As an instructor in the marine corps we taught it as well as a restraint technique. One of the academy’s I went through used the FBI’s training curriculum, most academy’s do.

I looked for the information for Minneapolis Pd on what curriculum their academy uses but was unable to find it. Individual departments protocols are a very grey area because transfers from other departments almost never require another academy that is why most use the fbi’s curriculum.


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Approved technique okay I'll take your word on that but to do it for almost 10 minutes and the man was cuffed to boot, absolutely no need for this man to loose his life especially over a $20 counterfeit bill.  If people are siding with this cop and use of that technique for that time frame you all have blinders on. Wasn't he also begging to be let up because he couldn't breath, if you can't see that as sad injustice then somethings wrong with society.

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6 hours ago, Chef said:

The amount of ignorance and racism in this thread is really sad .

That’s all. Weather the Verdict is guilty me innocent doesn’t really matter that cop killed that man and it’s a source of pain for many people in this country.


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When you go back through this thread you see the word "they" in reference to black people... that's racist! Re: Chauvin - he did kill Floyd whether intentional which I don't believe it was but the fact is he died right in front of him or should I say right under him.  He's a bad cop and should be put away for 20 a least.  And his cronies all need time as well.  Cops are not above the law and this needs to send a message that they are being watched.  

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10 minutes ago, nybuckboy said:

When you go back through this thread you see the word "they" in reference to black people... that's racist! Re: Chauvin - he did kill Floyd whether intentional which I don't believe it was but the fact is he died right in front of him or should I say right under him.  He's a bad cop and should be put away for 20 a least.  And his cronies all need time as well.  Cops are not above the law and this needs to send a message that they are being watched.  

Wait, the word "they" is racist?  Since when? 

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56 minutes ago, Versatile_Hunter said:

It’s a tough job but it certainly doesn’t entail “pounding” a suspect. The training is precisely aimed at teaching officers to subdue their ego and humanely restraint the subject with minimal harm. Police are not authorized to hit or kill those who disagree with them. It is not their job to dole out justice. Chauvin should rot in prison. The more interesting question is how do you remove future Chauvins before they unjustly kill again. 

100 percent !

He was in the car, cuffed , the threat was over !

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1 hour ago, Stein13 said:

Yes he should loose his job but should not be in jail for life if Floyd didn’t resist it would have been a problem so I feel he is just as much at fault if you resist and fight with the cops you get what you get I have no sympathy for you no matter what race you are have a friend that had to fight with the cops he got his pounded and then arrested got exactly what he deserved  

I would agree with you 100% that if people would keep out of trouble and not hang around low life they wouldn't be caught in these type of situations, but they had Floyd cuffed and face down.  How was he resisting at that point??  Did it require kneeling on his neck for another 8 minutes??  Hell no.   This idiot cop let the whole world witness it on video.  I guess only some of you here see it completely different than everyone else who is being totally honest about what they saw.  Chauvin will be going to jail if for NO other reason than to help repair the image of police.  They already have so much going against them.  They are being defunded, disrespected, spat on, etc.   The last thing they need is this idiot cop to walk scott free here to make things even worse for them.   Anyone can make a mistake, but what this cop did was NO mistake.  It wasn't like this was a quick life and death decision (shoot or not to shoot) for the cop to make.  They had him face down and cuffed.   He was apprehended and the situation was under control.

 

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52 minutes ago, nybuckboy said:

When you go back through this thread you see the word "they" in reference to black people... that's racist! Re: Chauvin - he did kill Floyd whether intentional which I don't believe it was but the fact is he died right in front of him or should I say right under him.  He's a bad cop and should be put away for 20 a least.  And his cronies all need time as well.  Cops are not above the law and this needs to send a message that they are being watched.  

Was "they" used to reference the rioters ? If it was then why would that be racist? Do we have to call people out specifically by their first names now?

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Approved technique okay I'll take your word on that but to do it for almost 10 minutes and the man was cuffed to boot, absolutely no need for this man to loose his life especially over a $20 counterfeit bill.  If people are siding with this cop and use of that technique for that time frame you all have blinders on. Wasn't he also begging to be let up because he couldn't breath, if you can't see that as sad injustice then somethings wrong with society.

As I said originally the cop”s” did a lot wrong that day but committing murder wasn’t one of them.

I’ve had hundreds of individuals on their stomachs restrained and probably 90% states they couldn’t breathe. I’ve also saw copious officers be injured by individuals in wrist restraints. To say that someone that is cuffed is no longer a threat is very ignorant.


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