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So our son has been working his tail off for us doing all the poultry chores we throw at him and then some all summer (including 5am wake up call) on top of putting in hours at another small farm that go towards getting into the Junior National Honor Society, and 4-H and being a kid. I decided that he needed some type of reward and I had a good idea of what to get him. I already had the caliber in mind and all that was left was the gun choice. Being his first rifle and that fact that he is 12 I figured a 7mm-08 and a Tupperware stock would fit the bill nicely. I ended up with the Savage Axis and had to special order it because he is a southpaw like me and no cares about us leftys, lol. We we surprised him with it today, made him close his eyes and open them when I placed the gun in his hands. Of course we ran out back and fired a few rounds and he loved it. He is on the hook for the scope, I always teach my kids that hard work is rewarded and that you are responsible to earn the things you want in life. He saves every dollar he earns walking dogs and what not and has enough for a serviceable scope already. So proud of my boy, this is a big day for a dad. Now we we are off to a minor league ball game!

No arrows needed Rob , i threw the dozen arrows i had just gotten for that bow in the box before i sealed it up, half of them had field tips in them also.

Good doe numbers will draw the bucks in come late October. Good luck Biz

I planted an acre this morning.....75 pounds of seed, 150 pounds of 15-15-15...Broadcast the seed and fertilizer with my buddy's ATV broadcaster and then did a light discing to work it in.. I am currently praying for rain for prompt germination... IF we get some rain soon, and IF we get a "reasonable" amount of rain, and IF we don't get an early frost, I may have mature grain by the end of September. Other wise, I still hope to have enough high nutrition greens to benefit the deer, plus improving the soil in that plot for whatever I decide to plant there next year.

You only shoot with broad heads? You must go through targets pretty quickly. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Just came back from the Old Lahaina Luau. Pig cooked underground, mahi, island crab salad, island chicken, Poi, Uala, taro leaf stew, and lots of other stuff I can't remember! I don't think I can eat for a week! And plenty of Mai- Tai's!

That would look nice stuffed in the cabin..

What I would give to have been a fly on your shoulder! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Nolans in canandaigua. Prime rib and cedar plank salmon

Wild hog roast, mashed potatoes, garlic broccoli, and applesauce. Before and after. Heading up to Lake Ontario tomorrow, hate to leave Momma & the kiddies without something to eat, so I made a tray of stuffed peppers, they just have to put them in the oven at 350 for 1 3/4 hours. Weather looks good, and so do the fishing reports this year. Fingers crossed!

My view.... Those hills are to steep to hunt with a heavy gun! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

You guys kill.me won't hunt a spot because a shooter might walk by.. do you remember when bow started Oct 15th? I look at the 2 extra weeks as a bonus and would hunt just to get out there and get one in the freezer.. Wait a few years till deer numbers are really out of wack and they put an early antlerless only muzzle loader or crossbow season in .. then the whining will really start..

If I have this wrong...the DEC.wanting to increase harvests and opportunities is: 1. Allowing the youth hunters to use cross bows during the youth hunt? Yet not expanding seniors participation in bow season by allowing them to use cross bows,yet they are the one that spent their hunting careers,as it were,funding the DEC in license sales'.....hmmmm 2. Rescinding the 2wks doe only in "over run areas" but not doing any thing to increase kills By giving out those extra tags early,or allowing cross bows into all of archery,with bow hunter ed course as a mandatory thing. ( don't argue I won't change my mind) So this is what I'm seeing right? Such progress,for all the $ they spend on survey's , studies etc,etc. They really addressed what hunters have said to them....

She won't listen to a word I say but she has fun and I love that she enjoys it! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I can't shoot them in any of the bows i shoot so it seemed like a no brainer to me. I could use a little good karma right now though,i got bit by something in the ankle while cutting the lawn yesterday and i'm debating about going to the MASH care to have it looked at .

Absolutely awesome, what you are doing Jeremy! Way to go man! It will all come back to you and then some. Starting this deer season!

I have no pics yet to post in this thread, gimme a week or so. My first boo-boo with shooting a bow ( 20+ years ago ) was after three weeks of getting groups that touched with field points, swapping out the points with broad-heads and trying to keep that group. I could see my grouping was still on par. But, after walking to my target I realized I had cut the fletching on one side or another off all 6 arrows. It sucked! I had to take the arrows in and have them re-fletched. I never did that again. 1 bladed head to one spot on the target.

Steaks on the grill, pasta salad, and asparagus.

Pork chops and butternut squash. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I love shooting trad, but the compound can still be a blast. Shot a few groups at 40yds and they were about the same (probably better) as my good groups at 20 with the recurve and I rarely shoot the compound vs 4-5 times per week with the recurve. If the only goal is to kill deer, I need my head examined as to why I like hunting with the recurve. But I guess it's not the only goal. I wish I had 60yds out my back door to shoot the compound.

Go get a cheap ladder stand from Walmart..... Dig a ditch 3ft by 4ft right at the base of the ladder..... Go to Home Depot.... Buy bamboo..... Sharpen 12 inch long spikes... Rub tips of spikes with garlic and rotten fish..... Place spikes facing up in ditch.... Get lots of thin sticks and cover ditch then spread a little dirt and some leaves over the sticks...... Have a seat about 100 yards away and wait for screams you will find your purp real quick Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Sorry, I don't think full inclusion will do all that much. At least not to the extent you seem to think. The not having to draw when you have a group of deer in close issue ( ) is a small one. Many bow hunters do it and have a lot of success. I am all for full inclusion of the crossbow, as I think It may get more hunters in the woods. I just doubt it will make a higher impact on doe take over all. Many people will still want to shoot an older bigger racked buck over a doe, but will use a crossbow to do it.

Had the Hopdevil ( was pretty good ) last night. Along with a few of the others. Just popped the top on this. Not bad.

Do you have any facts once so ever that full inclusion alone is the reason for the equal deer take or are you just using that 1 piece of the puzzle to push your agenda? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I field strip my granola bars and put them in plastic wrap before they go in my bag same thing with candy bars. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Much like trying to open a power bar silently ,good luck.

Agreed. NY has one of the longest deer seasons and up to 7 tags per hunter. Plus all the public land. The same people that complain about NYC influence on upstate also forget that NY has a northern zone with an early MZ season. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Natchez has the Leupold 3x9 on sale for 199.00 and free shipping. https://www.natchezss.com/leupold-vx-1-riflescope-386391.html Al

You are absolutely right. In a few years the DEC will cram their muzzleloader season into bow season, but it will have nothing to do with whether bow hunters were able to bring doe numbers down or not. For at least a decade, the DEC has been aching to get any kind of firearms into bow season that they could, and have even been successful to some extent in doing so. Now they have concocted a scheme that justifies exactly that, and there is no doubt in my mind that they will push that scheme just as far as they can with or without the bowhunters humble submission. I don't believe that the DEC thinks for a minute that bowhunters alone are able to control doe numbers. That is just their cover-story. And it appears that they are selling that story to some.

Big healthy yote.... Biggest one I have had on the cam. Ignore the times, never set them after battery reset.

I don't see the correlation. If I can hunt another spot where I'm allowed to shoot a buck I shouldn't, just to "do my part" in 9F? I do my part there, I shoot does there every year. If they want more taken stop making us wait until November to get additional tags.

I hear you, Stubby... It's a moot point with me...I don't do a lot of steep hills anymore, and when I do, I do them very SLOWLY.... I can still get to the top of the mountain, but it takes me a lot longer...<<sigh>>...... It doesn't seem like all that many years I was carrying heavy loads of moose, caribou and elk up and down hill in Alaska and some other totally awesome places.. Damn near killed me then, and I was in the best shape of my life. I nearly get a heart attack nowadays just THINKING about it...

Lower the age to 10 for deer hunting. Get the kids involved early.

A nice double IPA . Found one of Bills favorite movies while channel surfing

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My question is what do you cosnider mid range? A 7mm is truly a long range gun. Personally I like leupold but depends on where and range you are hunting.

Yes you are reading that right. Personally it didn't put a hamper on my bow season at all. I might sit a few times in early/mid October, but generally I like to conserve my energy for hunting the rut (late October- early November). I don't like the idea of giving NYS an inch, but I'd like to see them bring back the Oct. 15th season opener. As it is now, by the time the rut rolls around, every yokel with a bow has had almost a month to spook every deer in the county. It's really no wonder why the deer go nocturnal.

The 3x9 Leupold Vari 1 scope is an iconic classic that has a long unmatched track record in the field that can not be beat for performance, reliability or a company that stands behind it's product for the money. I go back to the sixties with Vari 1 Leupold scopes of both straight power and variables, always did their job in any conditions with Zero! issues. I am still banging away with them today and expect them to continue on for yet many more years after I am long gone. You will never go wrong with selecting a Leupold scope. Al

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Some of older guys can't use a climber . I would put up one of the $60 ladder stands from DICKs along with one or two trail hidden cams . I would also lock the stand to see who comes in with bolt cutters to cut the lock or chain . You would be possibly be losing $80 worth of stuff but might get the satisfaction of catching a thief and getting everything back . Maybe check Craigs List for tree stands for sale and see if anyone near you is selling any . You might find your missing stand . A guy I met a couple years ago said he did that , turned the seller in to the police and they found several other stolen stands in the guys garage .

The New York State Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC) today unveiled new regulations concerning deer and bear hunting, DEC Commissioner Basil Seggos announced today. These regulations increase opportunities for junior hunters to take bears, rescind an antlerless-only rule from 2015 in portions of southeastern New York and the Lake Plains, reduce antlerless harvests in two management units in the western Adirondacks, and clarify when special season tags may be used by bow and muzzleloader hunters. “We rely on hunters to help us meet our science-based population management goals, and these new regulations will help us explore alternative season structures that will advance improved population management,” said Commissioner Seggos. “The youth hunt has been very popular with families across the state, and we’re pleased to offer this expanded opportunity for junior hunters.” The new bear hunting regulation now includes the taking of bears in the youth firearms hunt over Columbus Day weekend that was previously a deer-only event. The 2015 regulation that prohibited harvest of antlered deer during portions of the bow and muzzleloader seasons in Wildlife Management Units (WMUs) 1C, 3M, 3S, 4J, 8A, 8C, 8F, 8G, 8H, 8N, 9A, and 9F has been rescinded, allowing the take of both antlered and antlerless deer during the entire bow and muzzleloader seasons in these units. In these WMUs, deer populations are above desired levels, and the antlerless-only rule was implemented in 2015 as part of a multi-phase process to increase antlerless harvest. However, reported harvest of female deer did not differ substantially between the WMUs with the antlerless-only periods and nearby WMUs without the rule, nor did the antlerless-only periods increase reported female take as desired. In contrast, deer populations in WMUs 6F and 6J have been declining, so harvest of antlerless deer is now prohibited during the early muzzleloader season in these units. Winter weather conditions are a primary driver of deer abundance in the northern part of the state, and the winters of 2013 and 2014 were especially harsh. Coupled with mild conditions this past winter, reducing the harvest of antlerless deer should prevent further population decline and stimulate growth. The DEC expects this change to be temporary. The final regulatory change is simply a technical correction to clarify that hunters who purchase both the bow and muzzleloader license privileges may use the Bow/Muzzleloader either-sex and Bow/Muzzleloader antlerless-only deer tags in either season or both in one of the seasons with the appropriate implement. This has always been DEC's intent, but ambiguity in the previous wording of the regulation could have led to confusion. Hunters who purchase just one of the special season privileges are still only allowed to use the Bow/Muzzleloader tag during that particular special season. Under the 2016-17 budget, Governor Cuomo’s NY Open for Fishing and Hunting Initiative provides $3 million for State land access projects and $4 million for hunting and fishing infrastructure. The 2015-16 budget also created a new capital account, which, along with federal Pittman-Robertson funds, will be used to manage, protect and restore fish and wildlife habitat and will improve and develop public access for fish and wildlife-related recreation. This year’s commitment builds on the previous $6 million in funding for 50 new projects to provide access to approximately 380,000 acres of existing State lands for recreation, including boat launches, bird-watching areas, trails and hunting blinds, and $8 million for upgrades and improvements to fish hatcheries statewide. View full article

Hang a new stand with three trail cams hidden in the tree tops................

view off the deck last September, its fun having all these animals around, we think anyway. probably there's a reason chuck adams, jim zumbo, the Eastman's etc all live in Wyoming.....lotsa critters

look up garlic zucchini pancakes with shredded parmesan cheese

Slice it length wise (into strips), coat with olive oil, salt, pepper, oregano & throw them on the grill

Good luck grow let us know how you are doing.

oh boy, and you started off so nicely

Fish doctor out of Oswego!

Salmo charters. Look up Dennis ruchalski on Facebook or call Justin schmidbauer at 716-260-9820 Sent from my LG-D850 using Tapatalk

Check out Catch the Drift out of Oswego NY. Works hard to get fish in the boat.