Jmny Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 The five fastest compound bows are: (liveoutdoors.com/hunting/236815-fastest-compound-bows) 1) PSE Full Trottole -370 fps 2) Matthews Halon - 353 fps 3) Hoyt Carbon Defiant Turbo - 350fps 4) Bear Escape - 350 fps 5) Elite Impulse 34 - 350 fps The fastest compound can project a arrow down range to 40 yards in .324 of a second. Now compare this to top five crossbows: 1) Scorpvdx Vtec - 440 fps 2) Barnett Ghost 415 - 415 fps 3) Barnett Ghost 410 - 410 fps 4) Excalibur Matrix mega 405 - 405 fps 5) Mission MBX 400 - 400 fps The fastest crossbow can project an arrow downfield to 40 yards in .272 of a second. That is .052 of a second faster, 52 thousandths of a second faster than a compound. And that is the biggest gap in foot speed for the corresponding numbered fastest in both the crossbow & compound bow speeds. 2) 415 - 353, 3) 410 - 350, 4) 405 - 350 and finally the fifth fastest in each category is 400- 350 fps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grampy Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Does this mean I need a faster crossbow? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robhuntandfish Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 The advantage isn't the speed. This is an old argument. It's the scope, accuracy and not having to draw. I have both and if I have to choose which is more effective it's the crossbow every time. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genesee_mohican Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Doesn't the Ravin have a 425 fps crossbow? Those 100 yard accuracy commercials are cool. It must be fun to shoot that thing at that distance and watch the bolt arc into the target. They will probably never be legal in NYS though. Too narrow. The regs say the device must be 17 inches wide, I think the Ravin is 8 inches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredbear2 Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Killer instinct has fast crossbows . I own one!. I’ll switch next weekend to that . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreeneHunter Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 I'll be out there next Saturday with my crossbow ... first time using it in the field ! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 (edited) Me too but only because my shoulders are shot and some days I can't even draw my compound . To me I'd rather use my compound , light easy to carry and I can shoot 360 around my tree. That Xbow is heavy and bulky , frankly I think it'll be a pain to use of of a stand . Dont give a rats a$$ about speed, two bows in 30 years of bow hunting , my "new" bow shoots around 240 fps I think , still easy to kill bucks every year . I also,don't get the whole " busted while drawing " thing . Drawing is very little,movement , one arm going 12-15 inches straight back , nor much movement . Standing , reaching for bow on hook is far more movement . Edited October 29, 2017 by Stay at home Nomad 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TACC Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Thanks For The InfoI did not see Ravin listed, and they are the crossbows that show the 100 yard shots on target on YouTube. Sent from my SM-G900T3 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy K Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 (edited) EDIT: I thought this was the first one and posts got deleted ,turns out there is multiples of the same thread. Edited October 29, 2017 by Jeremy K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hock3y24 Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 That’s if you shoot a long draw length and light arrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagle rider Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 I was pretty anti xbow until I gave it a try. I gotta tell you, I do like them a lot. I have a Wicked Ridge Invader. I like it a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy K Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 For me ,it would eliminate the reason i'm so addicted to archery . It's like taking an AR with a scope to the rifle range and acting like you're some top notch shooter because all the holes touch at 100 yards. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmny Posted October 30, 2017 Author Share Posted October 30, 2017 2 hours ago, genesee_mohican said: Doesn't the Ravin have a 425 fps crossbow? Those 100 yard accuracy commercials are cool. It must be fun to shoot that thing at that distance and watch the bolt arc into the target. They will probably never be legal in NYS though. Too narrow. The regs say the device must be 17 inches wide, I think the Ravin is 8 inches. Answered your own question. The list is of the five fastest hunting bows ( compound and crossbows. in New York State . The Ravin isn’t legal to hunt deer in ny state. Really don’t know the other state regulations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Real_TCIII Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 The speed is not the advantage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamoke Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Fredbear2 said: Killer instinct has fast crossbows . I own one!. I’ll switch next weekend to that . I just got my 350. Can't wait till the weekend. It shoots awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowshotmuzzleloader Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Us crossbow guys get 4 opening days ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunter49 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 I just bought a new Parker Enforcer shoots 315 fps, fast enough for me, which is what we want fast, quick kills. It shoots awesome & looking forward to using it also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmny Posted October 30, 2017 Author Share Posted October 30, 2017 2 hours ago, Robhuntandfish said: The advantage isn't the speed. This is an old argument. It's the scope, accuracy and not having to draw. I have both and if I have to choose which is more effective it's the crossbow every time. Let me quess you shoot aluminum or carbon arrows with a plus or minus .001 to .003 degree of straightness with a mechanical release, ( pull a trigger) probably some type of fancy pins, a stabilizer. So you buy additional mechanical devises to hold your bow steadier, use a release to pull hold the bow at fulldraw easier and longer, and eliminate rolling the string on release. Then you add sight pins to assist in aiming you me bow, as long as you anchor in the same place. Sorry you have to suffer the first 34 days of the season. Assume the reason you use the compound is it is the only way you can presently hunt that time of the year. i do have one question. Isn’t our responsibilities as hunters to use the most efficient tools available to insure a quick humane kill ? If so, why would anyone use longbow, recurve, or compound bow when the more accurate crossbow is available? I hunted compounds for many years. But 09 had a traumatic brain injury. Regained everything with exception to walk independently( walker) no longer hunt out of three stands only ground blinds with crossbow, muzzleloader, shotgun or rifle where allowed.. Had to buy UTV for transportation in and out of woods.To be honest at 63, don’t know how much longer I would have been using he compound, irregardless of my injuries. But really amazes me is that certain individuals feel threatened by others using a crossbow to hunt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmny Posted October 30, 2017 Author Share Posted October 30, 2017 Not pushing the need for fast bows. Only used the top five in each categiory to compare speed concerns with how fast and more accurate they are 0ver the compound bow. Both have there advantages and disadvantages. But when Hunting I’m not concerned with Foot pounds per second but foot pounds of energy at impact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFA-ADK Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 And to get those speeds you need a 70 lbs bow at 32 inch draw length, most those guys are 6ft 2 plus, not your average size person like the requirements for a crossbow is basically nothing and kid can be taught in one day how to shoot a crossbow. To me that's why its more like a gun, not much skills needed to be proficient. Most hunters are shooting bows in the 250-330 fps range with hunting arrows. Most I talk to are in the 270 - 280 fps range which is about average that is a big difference to 400 + fps bolt from a crossbow well over 100 fps. They also advertise how accurate they are at 100 yards, which is an unrealistic distance for most archers. To me its a vast difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TACC Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Doesn't the Ravin have a 425 fps crossbow? Those 100 yard accuracy commercials are cool. It must be fun to shoot that thing at that distance and watch the bolt arc into the target. They will probably never be legal in NYS though. Too narrow. The regs say the device must be 17 inches wide, I think the Ravin is 8 inches. Not trying to be a wiseguy, what is the purpose of this law requiring the Xbow be 17 inches wide?Sent from my SM-G900T3 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Real_TCIII Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Let me quess you shoot aluminum or carbon arrows with a plus or minus .001 to .003 degree of straightness with a mechanical release, ( pull a trigger) probably some type of fancy pins, a stabilizer. So you buy additional mechanical devises to hold your bow steadier, use a release to pull hold the bow at fulldraw easier and longer, and eliminate rolling the string on release. Then you add sight pins to assist in aiming you me bow, as long as you anchor in the same place. Sorry you have to suffer the first 34 days of the season. Assume the reason you use the compound is it is the only way you can presently hunt that time of the year. i do have one question. Isn’t our responsibilities as hunters to use the most efficient tools available to insure a quick humane kill ? If so, why would anyone use longbow, recurve, or compound bow when the more accurate crossbow is available? I hunted compounds for many years. But 09 had a traumatic brain injury. Regained everything with exception to walk independently( walker) no longer hunt out of three stands only ground blinds with crossbow, muzzleloader, shotgun or rifle where allowed.. Had to buy UTV for transportation in and out of woods.To be honest at 63, don’t know how much longer I would have been using he compound, irregardless of my injuries. But really amazes me is that certain individuals feel threatened by others using a crossbow to hunt. You were just waiting to pounce on someone with this diatribe. He clearly stated he hunts with a crossbow. I'm sorry to hear about your injuries and fully support your right to use a crossbow 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silent death Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, TACC said: Not trying to be a wiseguy, what is the purpose of this law requiring the Xbow be 17 inches wide? Sent from my SM-G900T3 using Tapatalk To Easy to fit out a car window lol who knows this is new york we are talking about Edited October 30, 2017 by silent death 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyslowhand Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 This is just one of the FUBAR regs limiting Xbow usage that came out of that Enviro Sub-committee before enacting the 2 week Xbow season ~3yrs ago. Assuming it was an attempt to restrict some of the better performing reverse draw Xbows around at the time that had sub-17" A-A widths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robhuntandfish Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 7 hours ago, Jmny said: Let me quess you shoot aluminum or carbon arrows with a plus or minus .001 to .003 degree of straightness with a mechanical release, ( pull a trigger) probably some type of fancy pins, a stabilizer. So you buy additional mechanical devises to hold your bow steadier, use a release to pull hold the bow at fulldraw easier and longer, and eliminate rolling the string on release. Then you add sight pins to assist in aiming you me bow, as long as you anchor in the same place. Sorry you have to suffer the first 34 days of the season. Assume the reason you use the compound is it is the only way you can presently hunt that time of the year. i do have one question. Isn’t our responsibilities as hunters to use the most efficient tools available to insure a quick humane kill ? If so, why would anyone use longbow, recurve, or compound bow when the more accurate crossbow is available? I hunted compounds for many years. But 09 had a traumatic brain injury. Regained everything with exception to walk independently( walker) no longer hunt out of three stands only ground blinds with crossbow, muzzleloader, shotgun or rifle where allowed.. Had to buy UTV for transportation in and out of woods.To be honest at 63, don’t know how much longer I would have been using he compound, irregardless of my injuries. But really amazes me is that certain individuals feel threatened by others using a crossbow to hunt. thats very assuming ....... i love bow hunting. Actually i am not big on gun hunting at all. Simply stated that the crossbow is more efficient which is a definite. I dont feel threatened at all. I enjoy both during hunting season. But it is def easy to hold a crossbow to assure a good shot than it is to hold draw on a deer or get drawn at the right time. Dont be sorry for me, But it would be hard to take the bow when the crossbow is that much more efficient is all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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