diplomat019 Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 (edited) Maybe you are right in some instances. Grouse said that he saw the same product marked up $12 from one store to the other. I’m sure both stores are buying from the same wholesaler. So that’s where my comment about price gouging came from. As far as why cant these stores make more of a profit? yeah that’s all on them. I just choose not to go back to any store that will double and triple their prices to the community. It’s their right to as business owners, but Im not supporting a local business that would do that. I guess if people see this as ok then thats your choice. If a community is keeping these places in business for years and then they want to double and triple their prices when the time comes. Well thats on them. I just dont like that. I dont think my sentiment is overly harsh. I love supporting local businesses and as I’ve gotten older I have come to realize the importance of them. Id rather spend a couple dollars more at the local gun shop, restaurant, deli, etc than get a better price at a box store. with that being said I draw the line at doubling your prices for a short term gain. Edited March 13, 2021 by diplomat019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 Like I said I understand your frustration. I thought I was top 10 on the list of a couple places I buy from but that's just not the case nowadays. Times change unfortunately. I don't know the profit margins on guns and ammo. I agree with you in the sense that if a shop doubles or triples their typical margin on a product in scarce times I'd consider it gouging. But they also do that with the risk that people like yourself then tell them to GTH and never return. Go down to the local shop and ask them WTH is going on? If they can look you in the face and want to continue doing business with you and in the town they should be able to give you a credible answer. Just realize you're the 29th person today walking in to give them sh!t. I too patronize as many local places as I can. Good times and bad. Maybe at some point they'll patronize my biz. Come's around goes around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suburbanfarmer Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 We need to have an ammo sticky which just posts locations and availability WMart Victor had shelves full of 12 & 20 Remi sluggers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlammerhirt Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Hamburg Walmaet had 350 legend yesterday. Looked like 2 boxesSent from my SM-A716V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 On 3/15/2021 at 11:39 PM, suburbanfarmer said: We need to have an ammo sticky which just posts locations and availability WMart Victor had shelves full of 12 & 20 Remi sluggers Facebook. Sportsman warehouse Rochester, posts when ammo comes in and what caliber. Generally they post early in the morning that it hits the shelves this was posted today around 8- 8:30 . For those looking for primers, they seem to come in fairly regularly, but not in this last shipment . Ammo is two box limit or one bulk pack, prices are just a bit more then pre shortage , 9mm ball looks to be around $16-$20 for 50, hard to make out tags . 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpacemanSpiff Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Nomad said: Facebook. Sportsman warehouse Rochester, posts when ammo comes in and what caliber. Generally they post early in the morning that it hits the shelves this was posted today around 8- 8:30 . For those looking for primers, they seem to come in fairly regularly, but not in this last shipment . Ammo is two box limit or one bulk pack, prices are just a bit more then pre shortage , 9mm ball looks to be around $16-$20 for 50, hard to make out tags . I was in there yesterday and there wasnt squat. However i did have luck at some smaller shops in the area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpacemanSpiff Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 (edited) Thought i had a decent day. Edited March 18, 2021 by SpacemanSpiff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suburbanfarmer Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, SpacemanSpiff said: I was in there yesterday and there wasnt squat. However i did have luck at some smaller shops in the area. Yup, the locals are there before the store opens and wipe it clean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 12 minutes ago, SpacemanSpiff said: I was in there yesterday and there wasnt squat. However i did have luck at some smaller shops in the area. You need to go when they post the shipment on FB ,which is generally at the stores opening although due to requests by working folks, they do stagger it to later in the day sometimes . Depending on the amount received some calibers can last a bit . Personally I’d rather pay a much higher price for a case online , then run out there for two boxes at normal prices . Also which I take as a good sign ,Buds Guns ,online has some ammo in stock that has always sold out PDQ , including 9mm, .22 LR, and 20 Ga slugs ( I got 5 boxes of Brenneke for $10 per ) , yes the price on 9mm and .22 is really high , but not as high as it was before and it all sold then . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phade Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 (edited) On 3/13/2021 at 12:49 PM, diplomat019 said: Maybe you are right in some instances. Grouse said that he saw the same product marked up $12 from one store to the other. I’m sure both stores are buying from the same wholesaler. So that’s where my comment about price gouging came from. As far as why cant these stores make more of a profit? yeah that’s all on them. I just choose not to go back to any store that will double and triple their prices to the community. It’s their right to as business owners, but Im not supporting a local business that would do that. I guess if people see this as ok then thats your choice. If a community is keeping these places in business for years and then they want to double and triple their prices when the time comes. Well thats on them. I just dont like that. I dont think my sentiment is overly harsh. I love supporting local businesses and as I’ve gotten older I have come to realize the importance of them. Id rather spend a couple dollars more at the local gun shop, restaurant, deli, etc than get a better price at a box store. with that being said I draw the line at doubling your prices for a short term gain. These shops are buying from wherever they can source the item. Certainly not from the same wholesaler. It is what is creating the variance. The whole chain is messed up as noted. The larger stores are not changing prices because they are usually locked in on buy/sell contracts to ensure they are able to get supplied first. Smaller dealers are buying one, two, three, or four times removed from the manufacturer and not consistently from the same wholesaler. That I know with confidence. Edited March 18, 2021 by phade 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Just paid $16 for a box of 1oz, 7.5 shot, 12 ga shotgun shells. OUCH. But they had it is stock and should have more soon, which is more than I can say about a lot of other stores I've been in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versatile_Hunter Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, Otto said: Just paid $16 for a box of 1oz, 7.5 shot, 12 ga shotgun shells. OUCH. But they had it is stock and should have more soon, which is more than I can say about a lot of other stores I've been in. Not bad for bismuth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Versatile_Hunter said: Not bad for bismuth HA! If only - solid 100% lead! They did have a fair amount of steel shot there too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suburbanfarmer Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 4 hours ago, Otto said: HA! If only - solid 100% lead! They did have a fair amount of steel shot there too. If you were closer, I could get you some for $12/box.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachunter Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 BPI has primed shotgun shells back in stock.I just scored 200 3" federal shells.Now if i can find some longshot powder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 5 hours ago, phade said: These shops are buying from wherever they can source the item. Certainly not from the same wholesaler. It is what is creating the variance. The whole chain is messed up as noted. The larger stores are not changing prices because they are usually locked in on buy/sell contracts to ensure they are able to get supplied first. Smaller dealers are buying one, two, three, or four times removed from the manufacturer and not consistently from the same wholesaler. That I know with confidence. I know a guy who sold .223 ammo to a gun shop from his private stash ,which is substantial, and he made a nice profit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 23 minutes ago, suburbanfarmer said: If you were closer, I could get you some for $12/box.. How far are you? I travel.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve D Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Winchester Announces 2021 Price Increases on Ammunition and Reloading Supplies March 23, 2021 <img width="700" height="394" src="https://www-internationalsportsman-com.exactdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/NewProduct_Winchester_Desktop-Banner.jpg?strip=all&lossy=1&resize=700%2C394&ssl=1" class="attachment-large size-large" alt="Winchester Ammunition v" srcset="https://www-internationalsportsman-com.exactdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/NewProduct_Winchester_Desktop-Banner.jpg?strip=all&lossy=1&ssl=1 1320w, https://www-internationalsportsman-com.exactdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/NewProduct_Winchester_Desktop-Banner-250x141.jpg?strip=all&lossy=1&ssl=1 250w, https://www-internationalsportsman-com.exactdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/NewProduct_Winchester_Desktop-Banner-700x394.jpg?strip=all&lossy=1&ssl=1 700w, https://www-internationalsportsman-com.exactdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/NewProduct_Winchester_Desktop-Banner-768x432.jpg?strip=all&lossy=1&ssl=1 768w, https://www-internationalsportsman-com.exactdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/NewProduct_Winchester_Desktop-Banner-120x68.jpg?strip=all&lossy=1&ssl=1 120w, https://www-internationalsportsman-com.exactdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/NewProduct_Winchester_Desktop-Banner-750x422.jpg?strip=all&lossy=1&ssl=1 750w, https://www-internationalsportsman-com.exactdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/NewProduct_Winchester_Desktop-Banner.jpg?strip=all&lossy=1&w=180&ssl=1 180w, https://www-internationalsportsman-com.exactdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/NewProduct_Winchester_Desktop-Banner.jpg?strip=all&lossy=1&w=360&ssl=1 360w, https://www-internationalsportsman-com.exactdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/NewProduct_Winchester_Desktop-Banner.jpg?strip=all&lossy=1&w=540&ssl=1 540w, https://www-internationalsportsman-com.exactdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/NewProduct_Winchester_Desktop-Banner.jpg?strip=all&lossy=1&w=900&ssl=1 900w" sizes="(max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px" data-eio="l" /> March 22nd, 2021 Winchester ammunition announced an increase in all ammunition prices effective May 1st. The letter from Winchester is below but amounts to a fairly large increase in the cost of ammunition. March 22, 2021 To All Winchester Ammunition Customers: Thank you for your commitment to Winchester and Browning Ammunition in support of our legendary products. Due to the increased cost inputs for manufacturing ammunition, it is necessary to increase ammunition prices for all shipments, including backorders, beginning May 1, 2021. Ammunition will be subject to the following price increases. Shotshells + 5%-12% 22 Magnum Rimfire ammunition + 5%-15% Hunting Rifle ammunition + 5%-15% All Centerfire Pistol ammunition +8% Components +10% Primers +25% (Due to our current backorder situation, until further notice, Winchester is not accepting new orders on primers) These May 1, 2021 increases will affect all pack sizes, sub-brands, and special make-ups. All existing orders and future orders shipped on or after May 1, 2021, will be shipped at the new prices unless you notify us requesting cancellation. Procedures for repricing back and future orders will be issued with new pricelists and programs in the coming weeks. Sincerely, Matt Campbell Vice President, Sales & Marketing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Price increases are one thing. Actually getting it on the shelf is a whole other game! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silent death Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 34 minutes ago, Otto said: Price increases are one thing. Actually getting it on the shelf is a whole other game! No problem getting steel shot down here in the southern tier. If you take a trip down this way let me know . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolt action Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Went to 3 stores near me over the past few days and saw the following. It's not much, but it's more than I've seen in a long time. I'm sure it's long gone by now, but seeing anything is encouraging. Dick's Greece = 20ga 2 3/4 slugs Walmart, 104 in Greece - .300 Win Mag; 45-70 Walmart, Dewey in Greece - .30-06; 100 packs of 7 1/2 and 8 shot. The Walmart in Dewey has had about 8 boxes of .350 Legend for months now. I don't own one, so always passed on it. I just recently decided that I'd like to build an AR for that round as something to take on a hog hunt. So I finally go back to get what I can, and wouldn't you know it that after months of sitting there, suddenly they're gone. Oh well, the search continues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silent death Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Go south to collector rifle and ammo in hopewell junction they have tons of ammo no limits on how much you can buy eathier..I had to wait in line for a hour to get in the place because only 4 people at a time are allowed inside but it was well worth it ...came out with a new rifle and 250 rds of ammo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowin Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Went to a local sporting good auction this past Saturday. Everything went for stupid money. Just a couple examples.. Two mugs of Remington 22LR, 300 rds each, so 600 total went for $175. A ruger 10/22 stainless, birch stock with a cheap Sliver scope hammered for $550. The only rifle that went for decent money was a lefty Weatherby vanguard 308, I believe, for $700. I tried for some .40cal, but wasn't willing to pay the prices. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, mowin said: Just a couple examples.. Two mugs of Remington 22LR, 300 rds each, so 600 total went for $175. Ha you can buy a 1,400 round bucket for $225 online at Buds, been listed for many days now . I don’t think we’ll see full shelves in stores for maybe two years . Check this out , it’s from a small ammo maker who caters to the competitor shooter who doesn’t reload I guess. They listed 300,00 rounds of 9mm and it all sold in under three minutes ! My latest purchase was some 20 Ga slugs for my daughters 870 ( back up gun ) I requested to be notified when they came in , last October, and got notified last week , a good five months later . Oh and they had a whole 29 boxes, I took five not wanting to be greedy . Oh I’m going shooting tomorrow, a couple hundred 9mm and maybe a couple dozen 00 Buck, through my Benelli, hot weather’s a coming . Edited March 24, 2021 by Nomad 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinsdale Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 The notification systems work great, even if it takes a while. Everything I needed to load some rounds came this week; bullets, powder, magnum rifle primers. Look outside the box on bullets. The solids I'm loading are standard for what I'm doing, but the are made overseas and they have been making regular shipments. Took 2 weeks off a notification list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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