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Biz, I noticed that there is always a big smile on your face when you post pictures. Is that because you are generally a happy guy, or you are showing off your teeth to the hunters who don't have any??

I feel like im the gift that keeps on giving, isn't that enough?

Had to google what a LV Clutch was. Thought it was something dirty, but it's only a purse.

Well seems kind of gay, but we need to welcome hunters from every segment of society, so I reckon it's all good!

Decoys are a personal choice. Some people use them others don't. You can use decoys to mark the desired range for where you are sitting. Decoy can be used the make the turkeys think that is the source of the calls. Not using decoys, may make them look more for what bird is making the calls. Don't forget to either camo paint your face or use a facemask, and wear gloves, both can stand out and be spotted. Wet fresh-plowed fields can make hard to spot a turkey that just sitting out there. Feathers may blend with the dark brown soil. Plan to start the day on the cold side and get hot coming back from sitting. there is a lot of temperature swing in spring turkey hunting. If you have a long walk, bring some water to drink. May even do something like wear a pair of shorts under the hunting pants so you can ditch the pants for the hike back out (helpful if you have a mile or 2 to walk back). Bug spray is a must for spring turkey - do apply to neck, ears and face, even with a face mask. The bugs will go any exposed skin and it is really hard to sit still with bugs in your eyes. Always assume another call that is approaching you could be another hunter. Be prepared to show off an orange hat, or say something to let them know you are there. I have sat inside a field edge with a decoy out in the grass and watching that field just to have a hen walk behind me in the woods. Also have been in a "hedge" row between two fields. Pre-season scouting saw turkey in the fallow field, so that is how I set up for turkey season. A tom was in the plowed field gobbling behind me to the left, out of sight and range. Moved quietly as possible through some poison ivy in the hedge row and poke my head partly through some brush just in time to see him move off further out-range. Couldn't call him back. It may be disappointing, but it is very exciting and gives you an adrenalin rush. Last spring the small plants (we are talking 6 inches or shorter) were moving like something was under them. The movement came towards me and up popped a grayish-colored weasel, just two feet away. You just never know what pops up around you in the spring. Good luck and have a safe and fun hunt in the Spring.

Person earns 50,000, pays 10% tax, : 5,000 taxes paid Person earns 100,000, pays 10% tax: 10,000 taxes paid Person earns 400,000, pays 10% tax: 40,000 taxes paid The higher earner is paying quite a bit more in a flat tax scenario. In our punitive tax rate system, the difference is obscene. Person earns 400,000, pays 40% tax: $160,000 taxes paid That's not taxation, that theft. And that number doesn't include property tax, school tax, sales tax, gasoline tax, capital gains tax, mortgage tax, etc. Abolish the IRS. Stop the punitive tax system. Which makes me think of... Man: Would you sleep with me for $1,000,000? Woman: Sure! Man: Would you sleep with me for $1 Woman: No! What do you think I am? Man: We already determined that. Now we are just negotiating price.

1) shorter barrel or longer barrel on the 12g? (using a 12g mossy 500) have a 18inch bead sight.. and im looking to get a 24-28inch vent rib for turkey. thoughts? **24-28 would be perfect.Some like a shorter barrel and some don't it comes down to personal preference.I use 24 mostly 2) have some incoming bass pro gift cards is the specific call / box i should look into preferably under $50. **Either a box or pot call would be great for a beginner or master.I use both but prefer my pot call to my box.Most box calls are loud and difficult to do subtle calling on 3)I know they "see color" and movement and camouflage tend to be even more paramount than deer hunting. any particular recommendations for the actual process of hunting turkey? **Yes don't move!!LOL Camo is important.Not the actual brand or pattern but just enough to help blend you in.Even in the best camo that's matched to your surroundings if you move the chances of them seeing you are in the high 90%,this is why a blind is a good idea also 4) based on TV ( ) it seems the preferred spot would be small fields / clearings in the woods or power line runs / corn fields. As opposed to being "in the woods" does this apply for NYS? **Turkeys are and can be everywhere.I suggest a few weekends before opening day to go out and sit with binos from a good vantage point(not where you intend to hunt) and watch and listen.See where they go and what their routine is.This will help immensely in learning a turkeys habits and how to set up on hunting them 5) preferred shot size? **I like 4 or 5 shot myself but again,its personal preference and what shot pattens from your gun the best.Also try and pattern all acceptable shell lengths out of your gun.What I mean is if you have a 3 1/2 inch gun the try 2 3/4,3 and 3 1/2 inch shells.A shotgun that pattens better is better than a gun that has tons of power but doesn't put the shot where it needs to be 6) any other tips you would give your son / grandson going for his first turkey season? **Have fun and don't get frustrated,Spring turkey is one of my favorite things to hunt.So much going on,the woods coming alive with smells,sounds,new critters being born wrap it all up into one and that's spring turkey hunting!!!

Hi Zeus, 1. I would recommend not going overly long on the barrel but I would recommend at least over 20 inches for your shotgun for balance, ventilated rib would be good. 26 inches would be fine on your shotgun. Put a true glo turkey sight (or similar) on the rib (they are designed specifically for ribbed shotgun barrels and are easy to install). 2. If I had to pick one call I would pick a slate call, it has brought in numerous birds for me each year. 3. Use full camo, move only when the bird can't see you and make sure you set up where you can see him coming. You don't want to be surprised or be in a situation where you have to move when a bird is almost on top of you. 4. Those places are good places in NYS too! 5. I like #5 shot the best. Seems to be the best of both worlds, pattern density and pellet energy/ killing power. 6. Patience and the ability to wait out birds kills more turkeys than anything else. Make sure you get a super full turkey choke. Take only head shots (body shots will only cripple a turkey). Use your calling to get him in close and don't shoot at ranges where the ability of your load makes killing the bird questionable. I try to get the in to at least 30 yards if at all possible. Very Important: Pattern your turkey gun and get it sighted in almost like you would with a rifle. You goal should be to cleanly kill the bird with shot in the head and neck getting little or no shot at all in the body. This will also make for a better bird on the table! Good luck.

It seems that many people simply believe the government will never try to take away the particular gun that they own. I mean the specific gun that they have in their closet with serial #xxxx that they use to hunt with a few times a year. I know several gun owners who think this way whether they are aware of it or not. What these folks don't understand is the stated end-vision of the rabid anti-gun crowd: the 'magical kingdom' of a world without guns. Whether you like the NRA or not, they are are the organization that is best able to fight against the anti's. By the time the gun-grabbers get around to that hunting gun in the closet it will be far too late to start caring.

Bought the wife necklace from Tiffany's so it doesn't seem like I'm cheap. The real gift is I took all her favorite photo's of her and our baby and used blurb.com to create a coffee table photo book. Titled it "An Amazing First Year" to congratulate her 1st year of motherhood and wrote some heart felt messages in it. Since it only came out to $55, I figure I add a simply silver necklace (she doesn't like gold, prefers silver or white gold) to make it look like I'm not so cheap. The problem is that the last couple of days she's been bugging me asking "Wouldn't it be a great idea to make a picture book of our baby to give to our parents?" I've been dodging it the last few days. Don't know how much longer I can dodge it.

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After reasing several articles and threads on the interwebs I decided to come to my favorite sparring grounds for more focused questions. looking for reccomendations. 1) shorter barrel or longer barrel on the 12g? (using a 12g mossy 500) have a 18inch bead sight.. and im looking to get a 24-28inch vent rib for turkey. thoughts? 2) have some incoming bass pro gift cards is the specfic call / box i shoudl look into preferably under $50. 3) i know they "see color" and movement and camoflage tend to be even more paramount than deer hunting. any particular recomendations for the actual process of hunting turkey? 4) based on TV ( ) it seems the preferred spot would be small fields / clearings in the woods or power line runs / corn fields. As opposed to being "in the woods" does this apply for NYS? 5) preferred shot size? 6) any other tips you would give your son / grandson going for his first turkey season? Thanks in advance guys!

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You are soooo GAY!

My wife is getting a couple hundred pounds of boneless venison, topped off with some from a fine button-buck, which to her is like the icing on the cake. What more could a woman ask for?

You look like you just chipped a nail or need to pinch a loaf in that pic.

I actually bought my wife a gift certificate for a manicure and pedicure because she likes getting them, but doesn't always have the money with all her other hobbies. I am with Phade though. I would have to be in a coma before someone would be giving me any of that stuff. You guys can justify it all you want, but I will always count it as girly or gay crap. Have fun.

I here ya. I bet nobody walking down 42nd street Monday-Friday looks at me and thinks "Hey, that guy looks like a hunter".

I wouldn't disagree with you here, but how many of these guys go hunting like us? Not very many. These manicure guys are more of the city slicker type who participate in sports that are more in vogue with hip culture than hunting will ever be. Hell, many hunters I've come across don't even have teeth, so I highly doubt they are worried about their toenails looking nice and pretty! LOL

pileated woodpecker call for a locator used to work well for me when I hunted turkey heavily. I would hit the owl call a time or two with no response. Then.. bust out that wood pecker call and they would gobble back at it like no tomorrow. I quit carrying the owl as I never did get anything to answer back to it. Not worth the cost based on my results. I also shot all my birds in the field in the spring. I never set up in the woods for them. They can and very well may come in silent. Be on the lookout. Also my final bit of wisdom here. WATCH FOR SKUNKS!!!! Once I setup along a nice well used trail that paralleled a hedgerow. I figured the turkeys used it... Sat down against a tree, all camo'ed out. Nothing could see me. I didnt move for a very long time and all the sudden I heard movement. Didnt even turn my head to look. Instead waited for whatever to come by me. This whatever turned out to be a black and white potentially foul smelling creature. Literally I could have kicked it in the head it was so close to my feet. Luckily it kept walking by me and didnt pay me any heed. After that, I was not sure which of us smelled worse. May have been me...

FYI : you're going to be addicted to spring bird hunting !!! Venison fills my freezer, turkey hunting fills my heart . 1) I've noticed a lot of turkey guns have different length barrels. Mossy Turkey Thugs model is a short barrel but my Remmy 1187 SPT is a long barrel. Never really got into pros or cons of either. As long as it petterns well. I shoot a Nitro Company .660 tube. Jellyhead performs really well in my daughters youth Remmy 20. 2) I mainly use a slate call (HS Strut) and a custom slate. Have a Lynchs Fool Proof 101 boxcall I've had for 35 years. Not a fan unless it's windy out. Really tough for me to "quiet " it down. Main objective of calling birds is call soft and infrequently. Cut what you think is soft in volume to have that. My nephew and I hunted together. We hunted about 30 yards apart. Neither of us could hear each other call. 3)Process should be a lot of scouting pre season. Find the patterns of the birds. Where they roost, where they head thru out the morning etc. 4) All depends. Birds have "field mode" .Rainy days they may hit the fields out of their patterns. Rain will dampen their hearing and may hit the fields for safety. They'll hit fields to pick bugs or dandelion heads. I called in a gobbler years back that was running into me. Fields were about shoulder height on him. I could see him eating and dandelions flying the whole way in. I have killed I believe 10 birds from under the same exact tree. I'm about 30 yards inside the woods from the field edge. If i set my deke out when he nears my decoy I know he's inside range. Also less likely to see me where I am as opposed to sitting right on edge of field. My spot is close to a pinch point of two fields. They roost about 300-400 yards from here. I can't get any closer as it's posted. 5) I shoot Heavi shot magblends 4 x 5 x6's. My daughter's gun likes em too. At 40 yards it's holding very tight. Guys brag about shooting birds out to 70 yards. I'm sure my gun is capable of it but NEVER going to beyond 40. Golden BB shots aren't for me. I do not want to wound a bird and if he isn't inside 40 yards you haven't fooled him . Crap, some states allow rifle for birds. Jeesh, that's fun (sarcasm) I like the blends as you get knockdown and pattern density. Not a fan of only #4's as some guys shoot. No density . Start saving your money and or pick up a box of this and a box of that along the way of different loads. The same exact combo may like something different. Oh ya, have your buddy shoot them all, lol. After the initial pattern testing you may only shoot once or twice a year to check gun and hopefully tip one over. 6) Tips: don't watch turkey hunting TV programs! The volume of their calling is amped up. They splice footage and make it look easy. Knock on doors now asking permission if you don't have property. Again, call soft and infrequently. If bird is inside 100 yards, don't call. He knows within feet of where you are. Scratch behind you (sounds like a hen scratching) You want him to hit your call and cut you off. Not you calling after hearing him gobble. Scouting, scouting and scouting ! I'm not a run and gun guy. Hunt 70 acres. I've tried to move 2x over the years. Yup, both times I got busted by silent birds real close. If there's 10 gobblers in your woods. You may hear all 10 (doubtful), hear 5, hear 2 or hear none. Full moon seems to screw with the birds. A lot of times they won't fly down til much later. If gobblers are henned up, get nasty bitchy hen. You want to pizz off the lead hen. If she yelps 3x, you yelp 4x. Idea is to call her in and big boy will follow. Crow calls make great locaters. Sit still. They may come in silent. Bug spray is your friend . Do not sit under that nice large tree before looking for coon crap (not that I've ever done that ) Do not sit in wild leek patch when hungover (again) Have I mentioned scouting !? "Listening to the woods wake up" as my now 12 yr old daughter called it many years ago is precious. Been taking her scouting since I had to carry her. She now hunts with me : ) Oldgobbler.com is a good website and can answer many questions. Good luck and enjoy

what he said about field hunting.......find their roost and get as close as possible to try and get him before he hens up.

As was said above, I have never killed a bird in a field in spring, I usually get them in the woods near roost trees. As for locator calls I use owl (reed and barrel) peacock,hawk,crow call,dog whistle,and elk bugle,as well as a horn from an 85 Honda moped.

I could argue the "should keep what you earn" line as others have gone. Instead, let me point out that the whole "successful people are evil" isn't so much about money. It is about instigating class warfare and dividing the populace. While everyone is "marching on wall street" and having a bitch-fest about the "evil" people who have the audacity to become successful - the government is screwing you over and has their hand deep in your pocket. I'm not rich and I pay more in taxes each year... how's that "tax the rich" thing working out for you? Bread and friggin' circuses. Smoke and friggin' mirrors. Might as well say "I wish I had those AR owner problems." Heck, no one needs an AR or a 30rd magazine. Those people should be stopped! All they need is a slingshot, just like me! United we stand, divided we fall. EVERYONE is overtaxed, not just the "rich" people. If everyone got on the same page, instead of believing a Robin Hood myth, we could have real tax reform and ALL get to keep more of what we bust our butts to earn.

Not logging but you can't compare the two. I think logging would be beneficial to the eco system. Fracking don't think so. And yes, not a pissing match.

What size stocking is that, LOL?

If you golf, you can get a spa package at Turning Stone Resort and Casino that will allow your wife to be pampered all day while you golf. Plus you get a nice dinner and if you gamble, casino time. I have done this for my wife and she loves it. Doesn't care that I'm out golfing while she is being pampered for hours.

A new exclusive area to deer hunt .

This can come from the "Depression" era. Also some know their family all to well.

OMG ..... I am awful glad that it is not you who is in charge of interpreting the Constitution. My gosh, what a wacked-out, stretched-out and ridiculous set of assumptions and conclusions. The good news .... You will never occupy a position where that kind of warped reasoning will ever determine the fate or execution of any sort of constitutional law. You guys are getting so far afield now with this thread that I can't remember what the original point was. At any moment, I expect to see this thread turn into what the definition of the word "is", is......lol.

remote car starter. mine this year is we are flying her oldest son home from utah on Christmas eve. she hasn't got a clue and he has not been home for Christmas in 11 years and the last time he was home was 3 years ago. i am sure she will be shocked beyond belief.

First, people never cease to amaze me as I go through this thread. If you're convicted of any violation or above in NY your name is a matter of public record UNLESS sealed by the judge. Those records are accessible for various levels of law enforcement. A conditional discharge is a conviction. A dismissal is not a conviction. Law enforcement officers need to be very careful about who and what they query in the system. My ONLY remedy against my deputy neighbor is my complaint that he's queried me, my family and any hunting friends without cause and he's paying the price. I'd also like to point out sometimes you're given a ticket you should not have been. Fight it, my buddy did, and it was dismissed outright because his story matched the deposition of the DEC officer and that try as he may, he could find no other violations in our party. To me there's a big difference in hunting violations: improperly tagged timing (close to sunset / sunrise) loaded gun leaning on tailgate, ATV tracking clearly mortally wounded animal on posted property Shooting on another's Too many shells/ wrong implement unlicensed untagged from/ across road/ within 500 feet in vehicle well after hours/ lights out of season These are my opinions and what I don't do is sit in judgement of others. I don't like to be around bandits during hunting season, they bring problems for everyone in the party. That's it boys and girls....

They log some of the state forest land here in WNY, and have been looking at mineral leases last I heard. I have a friend that does survey work for the DEC, and have seen some logging personally on state land near me. For all of the money that timber companies have to tempt the state with, I guarantee oil has more. Moot point, though.

I couldn't mount him, personally........ He is a great find though, weird he isn't eaten up at all. You could enter him in the (IIRC) "found dead" section of the NYSBBC.

To be fair... the "necessary" refers to the Militia not the arms... The Militia is what is necessary.. leading to.. THE RIGHT to keep and bear arms by the people. You are correct in that it is in the Amendment.

selectively logging the adirondaks would be the best thing this state could do. it's so dead up there and nothing grows. mother nature will attempt to do her own fires but we put them out. I've seen some national forests down south where they do controlled burns and logging. the growth and wildlife that comes from them is unbelievable.

I have never seen a box of non-lead shot loads that did not say ON THE BOX that they were steel or other non-lead shot. No markings otherwise I would assume they are lead.

Finishing it off with a double during MZ on our last hunt was just icing on the cake. That was a fun day for sure too.

All I want for Christmas is for someone to tell me where a person could buy 35 remington ammo....we have a friend that asks me to stop in this gun place and that when I'm out and about to ask if they carry it...several months and dozen or so places from the lake to NY/pa border and nada one...did find more 243 100gr though...Wish they'd sell the weapon already and stop asking...lol

I actually rephrased my wording before you finished typing this (see the edited version). You are correct, "enabled" was not what I meant.

I did the same thing as a teenager on the fringes of the south suburbs of Chicago in the '60s. A buddy & I killed our 2 man limit of Cottontails fight behind a local Xerox office one January day. Nobody batted an eye because it was common & most everyone knew what we were up to. If I had stopped & went into a business establishment carrying my shotgun, I think there might have been a different response. Even then, I don't think I would have been gunned down by the cops. I did get a dressing down, rightfully so, when a cop stopped us when we were seen walking down the street with my Dad's 30/40 Krag & 8mm Mauser. We were going out to shoot in the local dump where there was an unoffical gun range with an earthen bank for a back stop. There wasn't a lot of drama. I was told in no uncertain terms that it wasn't safe to shoot such a high powered weapons in the flat terrain & I promptly turned around it took the rifles home as instructed.

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Not saying it is valid, but perhaps it's the longer lethal range of the weapons involved & the perception that it might be easier to mistake the similar sized forms of humans & deer, while turkeys are much smaller. Are the regulations set by the DEC or the legislature? If it is the later, rationality might not be a prerequisite.

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This may be a stupid question, but why are we allowed the 30 minutes before/ after with turkey hunting and not deer? Is there some obvious reason I am missing?

you're honestly the biggest troll this sight has seen in a while. Here a few months and nothing but constant freak outs.

they frack for other stuff all ready that is the joke people dont even know what they are complaining about

Maybe the majority of New Yorker don't want fracking and in a democracy majority rules.

Hi Wooly, here is my winning painting of Ruddy Ducks: Larger copy here. The competition is very tough and the other artists that enter this are truly exceptional. It's hard to believe I won! This will be the 2015-2016 stamp. There may be a "home town" event next year after the stamps are issued, in which case I'd be happy to sign them if anyone is into that sort of thing. It is an immense honor!