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Read the story of this bruiser http://www.nyantler-outdoors.com/tripp-buck.html

Not sure if the daylight one is the same buck or not Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

A big problem is the overall decline in hunter numbers over the past couple of decades, combined with the increase in suburban and exurban deer 'sanctuaries'. Part of this also has to do with rural landowners, whether hunters or non-hunters, who increasingly refuse to allow hunting on their land. I don't have an answer, but over-complicating the rules and regulations certainly doesn't help the situation.

or maybe your buddy is an idiot. Just because it's legal doesn't make it right either. Dark canopies don't provide good light even in NY legal hours sometimes. A field on a fresh snow and a full moon can be more than enough with a scope. You need to be legal AND USE YOUR BRAIN.

If a fellow just happened to pop into this thread and saw the quoted post we'd probably loose our Internet License.

Oh yea ass is better than a mouth Lol

I have my cams located where equipment activity is normal, and I drive up to them with my ATV, swap the card, format the new one and switch the camera on. It is a very short intrusion that the deer are used to. Many times Ill get pics or video of deer walking through minutes or hours after I have been there. Its completely different than sitting in a stand for hours and getting winded by the deer.

Again, the argument against crossbows of it being "an easier way to kill a deer" was the exact argument made against the use of compound bows during the fight for their inclusion into archery season back in the late 70's. Then longbows and mostly recurves where the driving force behind the establishment of a special and separete bow/archery deer seasons. The compounds were let into/allowed in/rules change to permit in the archery season (against much opposition as being too easy) and now they are the standard. That is a fact many of you are too young to acknowledge or too intractable to accept. The old standard, the longbows and recurves are now looked down on by compound bow elitists as too old school and inaccurate/irresponsible and the crossbows are looked down on as too modern technological, too easy to use. Compounds are merely a point in time on the archery, bow season time line. There will come a day in the not too distant future where compounds will be looked down on as the old school inaccurate/irresponsible tool. You're arguments like tons of deer are killed by compounds falls on deaf ears, tons were ethically taken with longbows/recurves before you. Why do compound elitists think the bow evolution should stop at todays compound bows? To them longbows/recurves are not good enough and crossbows too good. They forget where they came from.

Well, I am officially tagged out here in NY until November! Filled my doe tag last week and got on this buck on the past Sunday.Here's the story: A few days ago I pulled my trail cam cards and got this guy on camera. Based on this picture alone, I wasn't sure if I was going to shoot this deer given the opportunity or not. My rule for bucks is 3 years or older and a lot about this picture said 2.5. Well, when I saw him in person I just couldn't let him walk by. I set up in one of my honey hole stands, a point that juts out into a swail grass swamp bordered by a beaver swamp. To my right the acorns were raining down and to my left was a loaded apple tree. About 45 min before dark, I heard a deer walking through the swamp in front of me. Shortly after, I saw a 10 foot tall tree get ravaged so I knew it was a buck, but I didn't know what yet. All I know is that he was taking it out on this tree because all I could see was the top of it swaying back and forth. Then he stepped into view and when I measured up this deer I decided I was going to take him if given the chance. His body, combined with his torn ears and the fact he was unique because Im not sure if ill ever see another 4 point as big as him were enough reason for me to want to take my first buck in three years. He was on a trail that would take him through my shooting lane for an easy 15 yard shot. Being that this is usually how my luck goes, the wind which had been blowing perfectly all day out of the southeast stopped just as this deer decided to stop for a few apples before stepping into the open. When the wind died, it gave the thermals flowing down off the hill behind me the upper hand and right to his location. Some people don't believe in scent control but I am a freak about it and this is one of those times it paid off. He wasn't a dumb deer, within minutes he knew something was up but it wasn't enough to blow him out of the area. However, it was enough for him to want to start heading back to where he came from. He took a few step back in the other direction, away from my shooting lanes, nose in the air and being very cautious. I desperately searched for an opening and I found it. It was the size of a bowling ball, all the way to his vitals at 20 yards. I had to kneel all the way down on the platform of my stand to make the shot. I stopped him perfectly in the opening and watched the arrow sink behind his shoulder. I knew he was done and thats when I lost my composure. Eating tag soup and passing bucks for three years makes this moment extremely surreal. When I walked up on this buck, I couldn't believe the size of his body. The jury is still out on whether he is a 2 or 3 year old buck and even some of the more seasoned reviewers I know are unsure. His face and rack scream 2 year old but his body is that of a solid 3 year old. I am having his jaw read next week. Anyway, here are some pics in chronological order. I will have a video out in a few days. Upstate NY Buck Age: 2 or 3 years old Weight: 178lbs dressed, over 200 live.

The long six month wait is over, felt good to have the fur and footage flying!

My only concern about going late is that I have seen buck with their antlers off later. I know the temps are not great earlier but the odds are an antlerless is a doe then.

Good morning. I am in Indianapolis for work, so this was a nice wake up from NY.

But could kill a buck if it came by. That is the difference

As long as the stand is there for a while, the deer will get used to it. I have never ever ever ever brushed in a ladder stand, and I cant tell you how many deer Ive killed out of them. Also, if you hunt it the same day they may not notice it until its too late. Like papist said, just dont put it right on the trail.

Buckle your seatbelt boys !

You missed! All I kept saying was get back on him! Cool video congrats!

I would think that would be a huge investment for a minimal return....

Good grief - people have to suspect the worst in everyone.

You just told him he was wrong, and then immediately verified his statement.

That was my point. THAT IS the difference between shooting a doe after the 15th and not going into the woods to shoot the same doe prior.

Bow take will not get it done. If what the DEC is claiming is true we could double the annual bow take in these areas and not come close to solving the problem. I don't get the approach of using the least effective weapon. (And I bow hunt)

This right there would actually make a difference. I do not hunt in this area, but if there was an early doe only gun season with over the counter tags, I would probably take a weekend and hunt. The only problem is I believe the over population is really in the areas without public land. If the landowners do not buy into this, nothing will change.

Took a nice dip in some marsh grass , butt is soaked , heard some rattling before light , light rain and no deer so far .... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Another topic where it's "to each his/her own". Whatever works for you, for where & how you hunt! BUT...anyone that keeps trail cams out into bow season knows this. They have somewhat semi-predictable patterns, at least into ~3rd week of Oct. If you hunt food sources, you know they are pretty much out of them 1-1.5hrs after sunrise or same timeframe before sunset into the food. Closer to Halloween their movements start to get really random and super unpredictable! Naturally depending on local food source availability! Then you get into the actual rut & all bets are off! LOL. Bless those of you than can sit all day, but my age induced ADD won't allow for this anymore and I'm pretty much relegated to be a 3hr sitter. Basically, there's no rule of thumb for how long to sit in the AM. Way too many variables; your habits & lifestyle, the food available, the weather, the habitat, time of the season, habits of local deer, surrounding area intrusions by humans, ........ on & on & on!

Don't worry about hunting tomorrow, we will all be fried.

Use this guys spot

I still walk up to my ladderstands, knowing full well where they're at, thinking "Oh S..., someone stole my stand" and not notice them! You would think they would stick out more, but they really don't.

that really has no bearing on the law, but more a case of someone taking a shot that they shouldn't have.

It is interesting sometimes to set free a few milkweed seed from your stand. I always have a small baggie full of them with me. It is very instructive to watch how those things will go out and meander around and circle and do all kinds of things that you would think it is impossible for the wind to do. So when you judge that a deer is downwind of you, that frequently is not the case. There are so many land features that baffle wind around. I used to get a hint back when I smoked by watching the smoke curl out and take right hand turns and left hand turns and sometimes turn around and come right back at me. When I started using the milkweed seeds and got to see the entire path of a breeze, I was shocked. I have sworn that I had killed deer that were downwind, but from what I have since learned from the milkweed seeds, maybe they really weren't. Scent can take a mighty devious and winding way as it travels away from us.

Hey everyone, New to the forum but very familiar with NY. I grew up in Upstate NY in Renn. County and have been hunting Washington/Renn for years. I recently moved out of state but always return for some weekends of hunting the family farm. If it's in the woods, or in the water, I hunt it! Good luck to everyone this year, and congrats to anyone who has tagged out already! Regards, Meatinthefreezer

Karma has a funny way of catching up with thieves. Sorry to hear that you got beat by this bum.

No electric or water, maybe 25000 for cabin add out building 6000, true worth 30 to 35 grand not including acreage. ...always ask a little more than you think you can always drop or accept an offer but can't really go up.. me I would ask 45 for cabin and buildings and add acreage in at going rate plus a few grand for food plot and road imporvements

Hunting has become a very selfish game. I've been trying to make this point for a good while now.

Well that made no sense...if they are hunters they are "allowing" hunting on their lands... Just no to every Tom ,Dick, and Harry that doesn't "like" state land. and there are a lot of non hunter doing the same...Thats the Joy of paying exorbitant land taxes...we get to choose who and how many.....assumptions

Because I don't mount heads/racks...It really doesn't matter but that said..... I have imposed my own "standards" ..unless a need,like last yrs 6pt, or very very unusual to me, everything under 8pts gets a pass. 8pts with a small body gets a pass...Now if a small 8 with 2 drop tines walked by in range...an arrow would fly. I have drop tines and split brows on my list of would like to shoot...

Lots of DEP land in Putnam and those counties where you can hunt yotes, fox, bibcats Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

First, most realtors will give you a free comp on the price. Second, I tried to sell my cabin myself and finally went to a realtor and it was sold in a few months for a better price than the offers I got. BTW the buyer was from Colorado and I never would have gotten his attention without the realtor using mls. Good luck.

I picked up 2 packs of tracers like 5-6 years ago. They all work perfectly fine and fly great still. Even after going through many of rib cages. They have never let me down once, on the range or in the field.. The new tracers are junk, bought 2 packs for my fiance, none of them worked like they were supposed too.. i think the magnet is to weak.. compared to the older style.. no the magnet doesn't make it fly any different compared to a regular nock.. She now shoots nocturnals and they have yet to fail as well! I bought the firenocks as well, they worked great, but i gave them to a friend who wanted to join the lighted knock crowd.... (he gave some of his time to help me get caught up on some work and wouldn't take any cash..) He loves them!

Went and picked it up today. Scope was dead on at 30yrds. I only can get 60yrds in my back yard and this is a pic of the first group in the wind. Won't be shooting groups anymore. I shoot a Mathews chill turned all the way up and the speed difference is night and day.

I dont believe all of Livingston is in the no zone.

Funny you picked this topic. This weekend I was putting up a 2 person stand and the thino collapsed like a house of cards. Needless to say I fell 19 feet to the ground. I landed on my side and I have some road rash on my legs. I am a little sore but for the grace of God nothing else. If I heal up enough I am going back in a put another up.

To many variables to say one time. Weather , wind, time of season , what I plan on doing the rest of the day , what I've already killed , what's on camera at that stand and what time, and on and on. Basically on morning hunts a couple hours then go home and to the gym and work around the house , keep in mind I can hunt over 3/4 of any given days of the season . If I was a week end warrior I might sit longer .

Nicely done...Too bad you're done for a month but that's a good reason to be done. Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk

Spyderco Sharpmaker. I just pulled a couple knives across it tonight as a matter of fact, hoping to knock the edge off one of them tomorrow morning.

Depending on the condition of everything I would value the property as a whole for a listing price of 89,000. I still stick to my above statements of price accesments for recreations pieces. Depends how aggressive you want to be will be up to you, everything I have listed has sold with in a week on craigslist. I don't use realtors, not worth paying 6% to me personally. But I will say firs no reason and the first week of a listing is most important to have a great price, to bring a lot of attention and a fast sale. Good luck !

Gotcha gotcha. My vote is still Firenocks in spite of their outrageous prices Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk

Bucks can only grow what the soil allows. Suburban/city environments provide great soil quality because of all the enhancements made by humans. Those deer are not eating in peoples yards just because that is all thats left. Its because it offers the best quality food. All of the factors that go into bigger bucks doesnt change in a city environment. Age is one of the factors, but nowhere near the only.

Luna is being a beast and basking in her glory of another successful find Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk

Guess I'll be this first. I believe this is my first opening morning kill ever... 21 yd shot...Rage hypodermic through bow lungs...she went 60 yds and piled up.