Swamp_bucks Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 So I've got permission from the wife to start looking for a new dog. I really want a purebred hunting breed or if someone knows of a decent mix that will do well as both. I dont care if it comes from a champion blood line but it has to be a family pet first hunter second. So I've got it narrowed down to a handful of breeds: golden retriever,basset hound,springer spaniel,lab, and a beagle(which my wife doesn't want). We dont want a huge dog looking at small/medium size. The one I keep looking at the most is a springer spaniel my wifes sister knows a local breeder so that helps also. It was the basset at one point but the drooling has me a little hesitant and there stubbornness. Like I said main purpose is family dog first then hopefully try and get it trained to hunt grouse and maybe rabbits. I know theres a thread on hunting dogs just figured I would make my own. To get some help figuring it out. Thanks for the input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cynthiafu Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 My hunting dog i got from the Northshore as a puppy I trained . The little black lab was supposed to be a big black lab for duck hunting but as you can see she was not all lab. Lolol we call her our meth lab Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mowin Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Never had a hunting dog, So can't help you choose which is best. Good luck with your search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grampy Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Growing up we always had beagles. Great family pets and hunters. But.....they need to stay active, and their nose will often get them into trouble. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy K Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Beagles are the worst ,cure as hell but good luck ever having one actually come back to you once they pick up a scent ,far too headstrong . I like a dog i can trust around the yard off leash. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApexerER Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 I would say Golden Retriever but i am biased. Can't think of a better family dog and they are smart so you can train them. If you did go that route i would shoot a lot around him when he is a puppy. My old boy that passed was scared to death of loud noises. The Golden i have now could careless if you blasted a shotgun next too his ear..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Engineer Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Go with a Coon hound. I have 2 Red Tick Coons. Great with other dogs and most time cats. Loves kids and adults. A real people pleaser. Very food motivated so easy to train. First time my younger one saw the lake he ran and jumped in. They will track anything and stay on point from raccoons, rabbits and ducks. But they prefer to play fetch in the back yard or lay you on the couch and take a nap. Mine are both rescues and we spoil them 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveboone Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 I would love a cocker...basically a flushing breed, nice size, friendly and playful, but the dang hair....Being a flusher they stay closer than alot of the breeds, but they can still get birdy and disappear on you. One of the biggest reason I stay with Rotties...(it may sound odd, but my Rotties are alot of fun in the field. Not breed for hunting, but they have a pretty good nose for birds and flush pretty good...and stay close. I would never recommend them with small kids though only because they can be clumsy and are so strong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmon_Run Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 I'm a lab guy for sure, good disposition, temperament and loving animals. They are know for trainability and most have a good family personality. I take several hours choosing a pup for my tastes, a good breeder will know how to help you select a dog for your needs. Just my suggestion if your going to have a dog; obtain one from a reputable breeder, check all health clearances, eye certifications, references and hips/elbows cleared. I have studded out my male and had to have a slew of clearances before breeding as a responsible owner; it's was expensive and a puppy with all the assurances attached from a breeder is a worthy cost. I know of some who obtain dogs from breeders and have health issues early on or had to euthanize their animal. I know reputable lab breeders and trainers if you wish to pm me. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolt action Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Are you looking for feedback only on the breeds that you mentioned? Or are you open to other breeds that check your boxes? I rave about my Mountain Feist. He's not listed, but checks all your boxes. If you're interested, I can post more info and pix. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swamp_bucks Posted December 29, 2020 Author Share Posted December 29, 2020 21 minutes ago, Bolt action said: Are you looking for feedback only on the breeds that you mentioned? Or are you open to other breeds that check your boxes? I rave about my Mountain Feist. He's not listed, but checks all your boxes. If you're interested, I can post more info and pix. I'm open to others those are just the ones I've been looking into the most. That's another reason for the post maybe theres a dog breed I'm just not aware of that may suit my needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swamp_bucks Posted December 29, 2020 Author Share Posted December 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Jeremy K said: Beagles are the worst ,cure as hell but good luck ever having one actually come back to you once they pick up a scent ,far too headstrong . I like a dog i can trust around the yard off leash. My wife had one growing up and she said all she did was have to look for it and it barked all day long. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swamp_bucks Posted December 29, 2020 Author Share Posted December 29, 2020 1 hour ago, ApexerER said: I would say Golden Retriever but i am biased. Can't think of a better family dog and they are smart so you can train them. If you did go that route i would shoot a lot around him when he is a puppy. My old boy that passed was scared to death of loud noises. The Golden i have now could careless if you blasted a shotgun next too his ear..... I had one growing up also and loved that dog. She didnt like a car door slamming let alone a gun going off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lomax Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Golden doodle it’s a golden retriever and poodle mix both pure bred. My son has them and smartest best dogs around family and hunters too. I have labradoodle and he is same way. CNYLabradoodles.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolt action Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 20 minutes ago, Swamp_bucks said: I'm open to others those are just the ones I've been looking into the most. That's another reason for the post maybe theres a dog breed I'm just not aware of that may suit my needs. Prior to owning one, I hadn't heard of the breed. It turns out most people up here (including my vet) aren't aware of the breed. They're not AKC recognized, but they are recognized by the UKC and some other organization. They were bred down South in the Appalachians for squirrel hunting. They only get to be about 25 pounds total, short hair and don't shed much. Wicked smart, super friendly, great with kids and other dogs. He's calm inside the house, and when you let him outside, it's like a switch turns on. He loves to run and play. They're hard wired to chase fur like a beagle, but not stubborn. Also, he doesn't bark unless there's a knock at the door, or he has a squirrel treed. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pygmy Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 I had three springers and they were all great family dogs and good hunters also.... Medium size and very family oriented... Cockers used to be very nice dogs, but in recent years breeding for the pet trade has produced a snippy, nasty little dog... I have no experience with field bred cockers, but as I understand it, they are much better temperament than the pet/show bred ones... The cockers I hunted over 50 years ago were nice dogs and great hunters...The ones I have encountered ( as pets) over the last 25 years or so were mostly unpleasant, snappy little bastards.. A number of breeds are similar....Standard poodles are very pleasant, wonderful dogs, but the minature abominations that the pet trade has bred ( and some people consider CUTE) should all be gathered into a huge burlap bag and sunk in the middle of Seneca lake.. I'd go with the springer.... A friend of mine has a golden doodle, and he is an extremely pleasant, calm demeanored and very intelligent dog, but he is BIG.. My friend is not a hunter, so I have no idea about the dog's abilities in the field.....Goldens and standard poodles are both excellent hunting breeds, and both have great dispositions, so the cross should hunt... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swamp_bucks Posted December 29, 2020 Author Share Posted December 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, Bolt action said: Prior to owning one, I hadn't heard of the breed. It turns out most people up here (including my vet) aren't aware of the breed. They're not AKC recognized, but they are recognized by the UKC and some other organization. They were bred down South in the Appalachians for squirrel hunting. They only get to be about 25 pounds total, short hair and don't shed much. Wicked smart, super friendly, great with kids and other dogs. He's calm inside the house, and when you let him outside, it's like a switch turns on. He loves to run and play. They're hard wired to chase fur like a beagle, but not stubborn. Also, he doesn't bark unless there's a knock at the door, or he has a squirrel treed. Hes pretty. Looks like I have a new one to add to the list. That matches just about everything I want. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolt action Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 PM if you want any more info. I can't say enough good things about them. If you decide to go this route, the hard part may be finding one. I drove down to Cuba to get this one. I haven't heard of any other breeders locally, not that I've done much looking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screamon demon Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 I moved away from NY almost 8 years ago and still love to follow this forum. I had to reset my password to post here. If you have not looked into a Wirehaired Pointing Griffon they may be something of interest to you. We have an 8 year old. Had we not moved when he was a pup I would have hunted over him but life happened and that was no longer an option. However, this breed is known as a versatile gun dog meaning they will point, flush, chase fur, deer search, retrieve, etc. as in you could hunt ducks in the morning with this guy in the blind then use him to find a deer in the afternoon. Unfortunately I never got to work with this guy in the field but I know I will never own another breed. He is fantastic with people and kids and super smart. Good luck in your search should be a fun one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 I have had one springer... He was a GREAT hunter and was also a GREAT family dog. The only advice I would give is if you want to hunt I would get one from a hunting line vs. a "bench"/show line. Lost him 2 years ago at 12 years old and still miss him every day. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nytracker Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 A lab from a reputable breeder .. that really hunts. Not a show person trying to make the dog seem to come from hunting stock . Look at the pictures of past hunts.. meet both the parents. If they are from hunting stock there will be lots of pictures. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYBowhunter Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 I have an american bully (not what your looking for, hes 100lbs ). I also have a rat terrier, they rarely get over 25lbs, my male is 15lbs. They love to chase, fast as hell, tenacious, very laid back in the house, loves to run and explore, extremely smart and obedient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno1 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 I have 2 GSP’s, they are hunting and family dogs. Our 2 are such good family dogs that my wife went to my breeder and put a deposit on a third pup 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escpen Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Prior to owning one, I hadn't heard of the breed. It turns out most people up here (including my vet) aren't aware of the breed. They're not AKC recognized, but they are recognized by the UKC and some other organization. They were bred down South in the Appalachians for squirrel hunting. They only get to be about 25 pounds total, short hair and don't shed much. Wicked smart, super friendly, great with kids and other dogs. He's calm inside the house, and when you let him outside, it's like a switch turns on. He loves to run and play. They're hard wired to chase fur like a beagle, but not stubborn. Also, he doesn't bark unless there's a knock at the door, or he has a squirrel treed. Do you mind sharing where you got your dog from?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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