DEC just passed the proposed 5 changes for 2021

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BREAKING NEWS 
DEC is moving forward with all five proposed regulations.
https://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/28605.html

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I go on record ,I'm not a fan of the 30 minutes before and 30 after for obvious reasons . I wear an orange hat all the time anyways... long season ahead boys let's enjoy and be safe. 

[G-Man]

Glad they made deer hunting standard times with all the other seasons start and end times..never made sense to me.

[Splitear]

All looks good to me. The 30 minutes before and after sunrise/set is a nice change in my opinion. It is like this in Illinois, and it felt weird walking out of the woods with plenty of shooting light left. I also wear orange regardless, so no big change for me and it's nice to know where other hunters are when I'm in the woods. 

Edited September 1, 2021 by Splitear

[Jeremy K]

I cant even count the number of times I was at full draw on a nice buck when I had to let down because I felt my phone vibrating in pocket indicating the end of hunting for the day.

[crappyice]

I cant even count the number of times I was at full draw on a nice buck when I had to let down because I felt my phone vibrating in pocket indicating the end of hunting for the day.

Worst part is the vibration would rattle the cardboard blind.


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[BizCT]

This means I have to beep my horn 30 minutes earlier to spook the deer away from @crappyice on my way to hunt?

[DirtTime]

30 minutes before and after is a good change. I guess I'll be getting up a half hour earlier for each hunt to be in before the other dudes start shuffling into the woods. I do that now, but this just means I have to get up a little earlier.

 

I always wear blaze orange during the gun seasons on public land so this changes nothing for me.

 

This new early season? I think it sucks. I have made some wise cracks because I never thought it would pass, but yeah, I think it sucks.

Edited September 1, 2021 by DirtTime

[Nytracker]

Dang means I will have to be in the treestand at 5:30 am to let the deer settle down before the neighbors push them back over to me when they ride to there tree stands on the 4 wheelers

[virgil]

The 30 minutes before/after is for gun only?  Or bow also?

[corydd7]

13 minutes ago, DirtTime said:

30 minutes before and after is a good change. I guess I'll be getting up a half hour earlier for each hunt to be in before the other dudes start shuffling into the woods. I do that now, but this just means I have to get up a little earlier.

 

I always wear blaze orange during the gun seasons on public land so this changes nothing for me.

 

This new early season? I think it sucks. I have made some wise cracks because I never thought it would pass, but yeah, I think it sucks.

Completely understand people not liking the early doe season but for a guy like me in 3m, I can take a doe real early to fill the freezer, then be real selective if I choose the rest of the year.

I was selective last year waiting on a buck and ate tag soup for the first time in a decade. 

[Swamp_bucks]

1 minute ago, virgil said:

The 30 minutes before/after is for gun only?  Or bow also?

It's for all from my understanding 

[virgil]

1 minute ago, Swamp_bucks said:

It's for all from my understanding 

Wow.  Hope that doesn't lead to a lot of unrecovered deer.

[Trial153]

The only changes that make sense is the time change and bear season change. The rest is stupid

[Daveboone]

12 minutes ago, virgil said:

Wow.  Hope that doesn't lead to a lot of unrecovered deer.

? Being able to hunt 1/2 hour earlier and later shouldnt affect a hunters judgement of if they SHOULD shoot.  I dont see why it would affect recovery at all.

[Jeremy K]

Am I the only one who cant see my pins even before sunset now? The extra half hour is nice but I'm not even sure I'll need it.

[virgil]

1 minute ago, Daveboone said:

? Being able to hunt 1/2 hour earlier and later shouldnt affect a hunters judgement of if they SHOULD shoot.  I dont see why it would affect recovery at all.

I just wonder if shots made just before dark will make it harder to track a deer.  i think the 30 minutes before sunrise is fine.  Not so sure about 30 minutes after sunset.

[virgil]

1 minute ago, Jeremy K said:

Am I the only one who cant see my pins even before sunset now? The extra half hour is nice but I'm not even sure I'll need it.

Agree.  I don't see this changing too much for bow season.  Even with light-up pins, still not easy to see the target at dusk.

[Buckmaster7600]

Am I the only one who cant see my pins even before sunset now? The extra half hour is nice but I'm not even sure I'll need it.

Hunting Ohio is why I ditched a peep, two different times I drew on bucks but wasn’t comfortable. Now I can shoot in the dark.


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[DirtTime]

13 minutes ago, corydd7 said:

Completely understand people not liking the early doe season but for a guy like me in 3m, I can take a doe real early to fill the freezer, then be real selective if I choose the rest of the year.

I was selective last year waiting on a buck and ate tag soup for the first time in a decade. 

But that was solely on you for being selective and waiting. Isn't that why this early season was put into effect to begin with, because hunters weren't taking does?

 

Take a doe early in the seasons we already have to get the freezer full and problem solved. No reason for this early season, at minimum we have two tags, the regular season buck tag and the Bow/ML antlered or antlerles. Add the second Bow/ML tag and DMPs and there's 5 tags, two for a buck and three for a doe. As I said, people not taking does is why this season was put into place. Being selective is a choice and if that leads to tag soup it was a choice a hunter made.

[suburbanfarmer]

40 minutes ago, virgil said:

Agree.  I don't see this changing too much for bow season.  Even with light-up pins, still not easy to see the target at dusk.

Just not for bow but for all seasons , scopes are great for aging eyes.

[Fletch]

I never understood the 30 minute prior/after debate. I am finally glad this ass backward state passed it. It is every hunters obligation to never shoot when conditions are unsafe. That includes too dark. I have hunted some swamps that are too dim to shoot safely way more than 30 minutes before dark. So I would not shoot. I have also hunted wide open country where it is still light as noon 30 minutes after sunset. Just because you can shoot at a legal time does not mean you can shoot in poor light where you cannot be sure it is safe. You shouldn't need the gobberment to tell you that!!

[phade]

1 hour ago, Jeremy K said:

I cant even count the number of times I was at full draw on a nice buck when I had to let down because I felt my phone vibrating in pocket indicating the end of hunting for the day.

Quote of the year on this site.

[phade]

55 minutes ago, Jeremy K said:

Am I the only one who cant see my pins even before sunset now? The extra half hour is nice but I'm not even sure I'll need it.

Just turn the knob on that little light thingy on the site. They glow.

Remember, Red goes dark first. Then Orange/Yellow. Then finally green. It's science.

Edited September 1, 2021 by phade

[mowin]

As far as the 30 min law, it depends on what terrain I'm hunting. In the pines, It won't matter as it really gets dark in there fast.

Field edge, huge difference.  And I don't see how it's going to affect or add to the lost deer due to bad hits. A ethical hunter won't take that shot. A unethical hunter would probably stay till dark anyway.

Hate the orange law. Never wear it.

Edited September 1, 2021 by mowin