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yesterday i just gave this a lot of thought while casting for some strippers. I realized I have more friends on here then i thought i did to the ones who have noting but negative things to say go screw your self Thanks for help guys i just need to get a few things strate so i'm going to see some doc's this moring and i'll be back later but i want to leave you all with a smile double post

Served with blue cheese and wing sauce.

In my FD that phase means a woman, child or say city official has entered the firehouse so watch your language and so,forth. Today we had a man on the roof who broke his leg, thought you may enjoy these pics. Of getting him off the roof . He was pretty brave and just trusted us .

Marshall received and loves his boxcall, though it sounds like the dogs don't like him practicing! Thanks again!

I'm done. Second tag filled. I had one of those crazy turkey hunting mornings this morning and was lucky enough to kill the boss tom. Lucky, (I caught wind of this bird's location in an off hand conversation with a non-hunting friend of a friend.) But now I can't hunt. Turkey season is over. What a bummer... unless I get a Pa. license. But I am still pissed at Pa. over its deer mis-management philosophy. But I might have to break down.

four foot fence im all for it 10 foot fence not so much

Well. Long story. Lol. Started at Plan A, got to Plan F before I was done. Nothing close to me on the roost. Finally found 2 Long Beards in a bowl but boy were they call shy. Plan E I set up across a field from them, Avian X decoy out. They gobbled but never moved. Swung all the way around them, got below them about 100 yards. Set up in the rain. They still wouldn't leave that bowl. Saw 6 jakes across a road, probably 600 yds away. They gobbled at me every time. Sure enough they cross a road and walk right to me. Unreal! These were the 23 Jakes I've called into gun range this year. I usually dont shoot them so I let them go. Well don't they see something and start alarm putting as they head right for the LB's!!!! WTF!!! Everything goes quiet. I call. Nothing. Now I'm ticked! I text Sandra Pirog saying "I'm shooting the next Jake twice!!!!" Lol. I call. Nothing. I look to my left and at a dead run to me here comes the 2 LB's, white heads, beards swinging. I'm left handed. My muzzle is 180 degrees from them. I wait till they get 20 yards and start yelping as I swing my gun. The two birds split, one goes to the right. Red dot finds him at 42 yds and BOOM! Game over!!!! 1 1/8" spurs 10 1/2" beard. Scale says 18lbs but felt heavier. Good 3 year old!

Scouted two nice toms for three weekends.Opening day he gave the slip, and again this past Saturday. But not Sunday morning. 20lb. and a 9" beard. Worked hard for this shot in the rain. Definitely a great experience.

Picture didn't attach. This is my second favorite part about Turkey hunting.

You guys are right. Hard to beat the fly hatch on the Genny right now...primed for the Sulphur duns...and I have tied into some of my best trout in this hatch, and right after when the Caddis are on the water. A lot of "yoots" need mentoring...and I could maybe call in tom for a buddy...but there are morels out there...and I have to find them! Can't keep me out of the woods for long!

Brian Pragle will do a good job with a dip. Personal service. Kolorfusion and other coatings would have to be done elsewhere. But a dip... Go to Brian. He is maybe five minutes off of the Dansville exits on 390. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

And I wasn't looking. . After picture my friend opened it then threw it. Said I could poisoned.

Ended up having a great hunt this morning, even though it got off to a rough start. I was supposed to take a guy from work who is just starting hunting, this would have been his first time out. He wasn't where we were supposed to meet at 4:00, I gave him 10 minutes but after getting no response when I called and texted I decided he must have overslept so I headed out. I found out later he was running 15 minutes behind and had left his phone at home... oh well, that was lesson one I guess. Since I didn't have anyone with me I decided to go back after a bird I've been on several times this season, but when I got near his roost it was dead silence. No amount of hooting could draw a response so I decided to walk back to the car and go where I was planning to take the other guy after all. When I got over there it was already shooting light, and I still needed to cross about half a mile of open fields to get to the woods. By the time I got out there I was pretty sure the birds would be on the ground, and at first I wasn't getting any response to any of my calling. I entered the block of woods from the north along a woods road that divides the block into an east and west side. The west side is bordered on the north by a beaver swamp that runs right up to the woods road I was walking on. I was alternating between crow calls and yelps on my trumpet and when I got roughly 100 yards past the back side of the swamp a bird gobbled from the west half of the block on my right. I quickly scrambled up the slope to get on the ridge he was on and gave another series of yelps. He hammered back immediately and had already begun closing the distance. I looked around and found a good tree, I was about 25 yards south of an east/west ridgeline and could see roughly 35 yards out toward the west in the direction the gobbler was coming from, it was a perfect setup. Approximately 5 minutes went by and I was starting to worry he might stay below the ridgeline and get too far to my right where I wouldn't be able to swing for a shot, so I carefully gave a couple of soft clucks on the trumpet. The response was instantaneous, he was no more than 50 yards straight in front of me and I could hear his gobble trail off into a low rattling rumble. I spent the next 15 minutes not moving a muscle, safety off, gun trained at the group of trees where I expected him to step out on one side or the other... but nothing happened. I waited another 10 minutes and tried lightly scratching in the leaves. Nothing. A few soft yelps, and again, nothing. 10 more minutes ticked by and I pulled out my crow call, and again I was met with silence. My best guess is that when he gobbled from so close he expected the hen to come right to him at that point, and when no hen showed he bugged out. If it wasn't for that last series of clucks he may have walked right into my lap. I was a little mad at myself for messing up on a bird that was coming in on a string but it was still early so I backed out and went over to the eastern half of the block. I made a loop around the perimeter and on the far east side I ran into 4 hens by themselves in a field. I got them going with some aggressive cutting and they came in to about 5 steps of where I was leaned against a maple before they finally spooked. Despite all of the back and forth calling no gobblers were heard from. I continued my loop and wound up back at the woods road near where I had struck the gobbler earlier. As I was considering my next move I thought I heard him sound off a bit farther out than he had been earlier and closer to the swamp. Rather than trying to call him back to the same spot I decided to swing to his south to try and come at him from a new angle. When I got to the southern edge of the block I switched to a glass pot call and tried a few calling sequences but got no answer. I continued to circle around toward the last place I had hear him, calling every few minutes as I went. Eventually I made it all the way up to where I could see the edge of the swamp and still hadn't made contact with him. I slowly worked my way along the swamp back toward the woods road and was thinking about what area I should head to for the second half of the morning. I picked up the woods road and began walking it toward the fields, there is a small clearing along the road about 60 yards before you get to the fields and I stopped at the edge to call one last time. I got a gobble in response, he was out in the fields and had probably walked up the road that I was now standing on just minutes before. I quickly found a spot to sit in a small stand of hemlocks that borders the road and provided deep shade. With the swamp on one side and thick brush on the other he was going to have to walk up the road if he wanted to come find me. I called again once I was in position and he sounded a bit closer when he answered. Several minutes later he gobbled one last time where the woods road enters the field and I knew he was coming. Thirty seconds later and I could see his red head bobbing down the road, at 26 yards he stepped into enough of an opening that I could see his beard and a load of Federal HW 7's dropped him in his tracks. My NY tags are filled but I may try to hit PA, VT or ME for a few days before the end of the month. Hopefully I'm not quite done yet.

A hearty "ATTABOY" to all involved...........you've done good!!

All the respect in the world for you guys….Did you watch your language ????

I believe the same thing. I had a deer blow at me the way Jonmp described last Saturday (and a couple times before). I was trying to turkey hunt, and the deer would not leave, just kept blowing and blowing. Finally after 10 minutes of this, I got up and threw a stick it's way until it took off. It still kept blowing, but wandered off in another direction.

I have always interpreted snorting as an alarm that is used when a deer is worried but not entirely clear on the nature of the threat. This is an opinion based on experience, not any research or reading.

I tend to agree with this... I'm not sure if pertains to all forums, but I think this forum has a better educated class of hunters than most of the 1000's of hunters I've encountered over the years. Although I don't think it represents the average NYS hunter... it does make for a bit more intelligent and interesting conversation than other forums I've been on. Most opinions seem well thought out even if I don't agree with some of them. I wouldn't come here for data if I was looking for a good sample of the average NYS deer hunter.

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Perhaps it's true in the US. I still firmly believe that legal hunting in impoverished countries like those in Africa cuts down on poaching though. When hunting is allowed in an impoverished country, you increase demand for other services. You need guides, trackers, cooks, entertainment, laborers, etc. The employment opportunities surrounding these operations gives the animals an economic value they would not otherwise have and incentivizes protection by locals where they ordinarily couldn't be bothered.

Nice evening beer after a nice bass dinner! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

QAD for me. I see all the benefits of a drop away as well as being fully contained. I did have a WB for the first year of bow hunting and i was always able to get groups with arrows touching.

ApexerER you are a real A**holeSent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk

Guy in Dansville may do it he has a website....Brian pragle did my skull for me excellent work and great guy to deal withSent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk

I'm sure there must be some kind of mistake. I ain't taken the fall for this one! If that was the kind of comment that would make someone want to leave this site then I don't know what to tell ya.

It saddens me to see you go, Papabear. I can't see why anyone would have a problem with you.

Good job this year to everyone who got involved with ANY aspect of the youth hunt, whether birds were killed or not! I've grown to really enjoy the pictures and stories you all share here during this youth hunt. Special thanks goes out to Lou for orchestrating this contest again to help encourage getting the next generation of hunters off to a good start! I've said it before, and I'll say it again.... it's a great thing you do Lou putting it all together for anyone that wants to participate! Bravo buddy!

Huge props for all who donated prizes. And congratulations to the winners and all the youth hunters who participated. And most importantly to all the mentors who took the time to take a kid hunting! You are all winners!!!

I re concur I would also like the start to gun to be on a Monday for all the reasons gman stated. I do not concur with crossbows to be in all the bow season. I think they should be in the black powder time frame.

OK, I'm giving in. After 15 or 16 years I'm going to get my Benelli SBE camo dipped. Anybody ever had one done? How about Tarjac, used them? Other places maybe closer to Buffalo? (if I could save some coin on shipping that'd be fine with me as long as the local guy has good references) Thanks for the replies................

Last archery season we tried something different, we hunted on public land for the first time and it paid off. Deer Hunting Video>> https://youtu.be/eceVxmVZ3TM

You're my HERO, Larry !! If I ever break my leg I'm going to ask for YOU when I call 911.. At my age it will probably be tomorrow.. Keep your cell phone on....<< SMILE>>..

I headed out at about 730 today..Got set up by around 830. Lots of birds in the fields but no gobbling. Had a tom (6-7" beard) walk right by me following hens out into the one field at around 930' Took me by complete surprise. They just showed up , 20 or so yds. off to my right. No time to even move>>

Buckstopshere, nice bird and nice hooks on him. Nah you aren't done, you can't shoot but you definitely can call for someone else or go along for the fun. Take a youth hunting maybe . I'm still looking to punch tag #1 . Great season you've had

For 18 years I hunted with a bow that had a simple flipper rest , basically a thin wire wrapped in a plastic tube , that worked fine. 8 or 9 years ago I got my new bow and that has a drop away , I don't know the brand but it raises up with the draw, that works well too . I like it as its "U" shaped and holds the arrow in place once up ,and down there is another little "U" thing that keeps it in place . I can't imagine WB or drop away making a big difference other than personal preference .

good to hear. now what's your opinion on breeding deer and hunting them behind a fence?

Glad you're staying PB!

DEC to save face and function extrapolates data and does field data collection at places like deer processors. They've openly said it would be better if hunters reported their take, more so than they do now. 2% confidence factor is built into modeling sure. no model will ever be as good as more complete actual harvest records. DEC has said it would help and it's against the law not to report, so all hunters should be reporting their take. we all understand lax attitude is a precedent, but if we care anything about hunting we should be changing to report our harvest. luckily people who manage their land are most likely getting DMAPs and they're most likely the most accurately reported and recorded by DEC.

That isn't out of the question and I've been checking out a couple Youtube clips on it. Those guys are serious. Many moons ago I did a couple of my guns and a bow, they held up pretty good but did chip after a bit. Some primer, OD green, brown and maybe gray could be the ticket. Maybe some ferns and stale oak leaves for style points?

Had to aim to the sky http://www.westernjournalism.com/guy-just-set-world-record-9mm-revolver-awesome/

Be careful with a whisker biscuit...one cold morning my dad was drawing on a buck and his arrow made this gkd awful nosie as it pulled through the biscuit....deer spooked and the biscuit was removed from the bow that afternoon.....though not a common problem the combo of the crabon arrow and the brissles made for a loud squeek on a dead silent morning. Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk

Larry, it's way easier to just go buy a new gun.

Or just don't smoke ?

I have heard less than favorable things about tarjac. Phade likes Brian's work. Guy in Newark does Kolorfusion (Ultimate Finishers) which is better than dipping but costs more (not sure it works on plastic). He has down several bows for me and did a good job.

Well done everyone.

That depends if you have the land to move on, I usually move and did today at 7 am after sitting from 530 to 7 in a roost area.. after the birds leave I try and go to where they will show later.. fields if sun comes out after hard rain, a feeding area (lots of recent scratchings) they will come back to area after hens have left them if the heard your calling.. but that's a lot of wait and sit hunting.. it's a fine method, but I have always been more of a run and gun person..

Yea, the desecrated upside down American flag has no significance to you.

I think another big part of the equation is that kids mature at diffrent rates and it's up to the parents to recognize what is a realistic goal for the kids on an individual basis.

Congratulations to everyone!

Wow, thanks! He'll be psyched when he hears this.