fasteddie Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Pulled Cam Cards in Geneseo today . This was weird ! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFA-ADK Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Wow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doebuck1234 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Friday morning a buddy and i were standing outside having a smoke and there was 5 coming out of a field.one looked realllly small compared to the rest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share Posted April 14, 2019 Small with no spots . Must be 2-3 months old or it's a Dwarf Deer . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turkeyfeathers Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 (edited) So born in December?! Peculiar Edited April 14, 2019 by turkeyfeathers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyslowhand Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Lets see if I get this 200 day gestation math correct. The typical or main November rut conceived fawns are usually born late May or so. So.. if a fawn was conceived during any subsequent Dec, Jan rut activities - they could be born in late July, early August. Have to imagine one of these later birthed fawns would have a very short period of bountiful food sources available and have a hard time surviving the winter being so young. Obviously, they can per the photo evidence!! Eddie, you'll have to contact Bill Nye the science guy, but I don't think deer are prone to dwarfism. Ground shrinkage maybe... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turkeyfeathers Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Lol at ground shrinkage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crappyice Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Lol at ground shrinkage George Costanza said it best, “I WAS IN THE POOL!”Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share Posted April 14, 2019 7 hours ago, nyslowhand said: Eddie, you'll have to contact Bill Nye the science guy, but I don't think deer are prone to dwarfism. Ground shrinkage maybe... I was being facetious about the dwarfism . I think Bill Nye is a phoney ....... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolc123 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 7 hours ago, nyslowhand said: So.. if a fawn was conceived during any subsequent Dec, Jan rut activities - they could be born in late July, early August. Have to imagine one of these later birthed fawns would have a very short period of bountiful food sources available and have a hard time surviving the winter being so young. Obviously, they can per the photo evidence!! I would go along with this. Also, that might be one of them "extra big" does. It don't seem too "weird" to me. I have seen some tiny deer during hunting season, including one little doe fawn that a buddy killed at our place, that would fit in a game bag on the back of a jacket. In a normal winter with lots of snow, the coyotes would likely take out most of those late-born ones. The light and short-lasting snow this winter must have enabled most of them to survive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First-light Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 We have seen fawns during the January shot gun season down here on the Island with spots. Then again there is so much shit in the drinking water......lol 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robhuntandfish Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 I have seen deer so small in the fall when hunting they could walk right under a fence without its back touching. Wouldn't think it would grow much in the winter and have seen some small 1.5 yr olds too. Prob just a late bloomer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nytracker Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 That's a cow doe ... she did well through the winter no ribs yet . Yearling with her doesn't look bad from the pic. I think it's an average yearling with a huge doe . We dont see many super mature does anymore with all the doe permits being filled. My biggest doe was killed in woodhull area back in 1984. DEC weighed her at 160 lbs . And aged her at 7.5 years old . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pygmy Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Pygmy deer.... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landtracdeerhunter Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Good size ma ma doe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swamp_bucks Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 I think mixture of later fawn and huge doe. I have 2 fawns that go through my lawn every night with a big doe. The smaller of the fawns and doe are about the difference between those 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawdwaz Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 31 minutes ago, Pygmy said: Pygmy deer.... You might could have something invested in this, sir? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pygmy Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Lawdwaz said: You might could have something invested in this, sir? Naaaaw…..I can't RUN that fast.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny hunter Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 I saw 3 small deer last week in Westchester I thought they were born late last year.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share Posted April 14, 2019 3 hours ago, Pygmy said: Pygmy deer.... Your deer is lost Pygmy ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LET EM GROW Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 I was trying to wonder what was so weird with the picture lol, Had to read the comments. There have been a lot of small deer around lately, some smaller than what normal would seem.. I have even heard it from some friends in their travels lately. We Just need to remember that March is the hardest Month for them, Probably the month they are going to look the worst/smallest.. If a 6 month old deer (+- a month or 2) makes it, the winter must have been as harsh as some think... They are built to survive no doubt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveboone Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 I also couldn't figure out what was wrong, or possibly, till I read the following notes. I have frequently seen much smaller fawns/ yearlings. Considering the relatively short growth time from birth in the spring to fall, if you have a late conceived doe, (even several weeks/month) they are going to be significantly smaller than their fellow babies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phade Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 I see nothing wrong, and there is a form of "dwarfism" in whitetails. They have smaller bodies/short stubby legs. Pretty rare. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 runt or simply later born. momma doe seems to be not mature but still middle aged. the little skipper will be totally fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted April 17, 2019 Author Share Posted April 17, 2019 It dawned on me that during Crossbow and early gun season that I came across a spotted fawn a couple times . Opening day of gun season my oldest son saw the spotted fawn . I bet the picture of the small deer I posted is that fawn and it made it through the winter . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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